Dear ADC's

Swollwonder··19 votes·2,168 views

Get off mobafire and adjust your f*cking build path

bronze4life

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Baron of Bread12 votes

#bronze5life

Fixed that for you

Akesgeroth12 votes

Oh god, it's one of these threads.

SmurfOfYixuan3 votes

What's sad is how many upvotes these kind of thoughtless, 1 sentence rant gets simply bc they are catchy.

zane yalgir7 votes

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Get off mobafire and adjust your f*cking build path

bronze4life

dear supps and mids

its the tank meta

stop Blitzcrank volis ontop of me stop picking ad mids against tanky enemies stop being stupid with engages its a 2v2 and adcs still have to cs

i had to include thi ranked becuase of all the cance picking yasou mid and never building a last whisper or mr or hp and going pure damage.... Braum item 3075 can regluarly 1v1 yas bruam does no fucking damage.... it means yasou players are killing themselves all over the place building adc over multiple games and it sucks -_- anyways rants aside i do agree with you

learn to fucking useitem 3142 item 3153 item 3071 item 3139 item 3026 item 3102 item 3022 building pure damage agaisnt 5k hp and item 3075 with no armor pen hp or mr is idiocy

any one tried armor pen maybe ie only crit cait yet? or has her buff not come out jsut got back form work and dont remember?

NoMonku1 votes

I would say if you have to actually build that on Yasuo, I say you are better off picking something else lol.

Silents4292 votes

Oh jesus I had a blitz who would only pull a friggin Leona at our team, like seriously how stupid can you be.

Wickedfates1 votes

maybe they were doing it because u asked how stupid they could be after they accidentally did it once?

Silents4291 votes

I don't call people stupid in game, I just told him to try pulling Heimer

Wickedfates1 votes

and he prob pulled the wrong person by accident and not to make you mad or to be stupid

Silents4292 votes

No. He flat out choose Leona to pull because she was the easiest to land, he made no effort to ever grab anyone else, and he wasn't even close to pulling anyone else to try saying it was an "accident"

zane yalgir1 votes

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No. He flat out choose Leona to pull because she was the easiest to land, he made no effort to ever grab anyone else, and he wasn't even close to pulling anyone else to try saying it was an "accident"

and the best part is you have no proof becuase riot wont put in a replay function which would force thousands of players like that blitz to stop playing like absolute morons becuase it could be proven easily that he waited and picked then.

Silents4291 votes

Your reply seems like a needless shot at Riot for no reason.

Nothing the Blitz did was a bannable offense, nor would I care to get proof for his incompetence.

zane yalgir1 votes

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Your reply seems like a needless shot at Riot for no reason.

Nothing the Blitz did was a bannable offense, nor would I care to get proof for his incompetence.

thats why lytes failed so hard. he lets people like blitz trolls and purposly throw over and over but the moment you say anyhting you get a ban

case and point tonight i had a xin i had to mute all i said was your getting reported becuase of this shitty attude you have.

it flagged the system.

he had a shitty attitude there's nothing wrong with saying it. again he watched team fights end with our lose he purposely threw a win. second one tonight. problem isnt flamers getting mad at kids like that. the problem is kids like that are allowed to purposely throw games but never get ranked restricted or anything

this is a 5v5 very rarely do you ever solo carry no one would be bronze if there was a magic bullet to leave bronze.

at the same time we lost. it was becuase one guy decided to watch and never go in. its ranked that is unacceptable normal's meh ranked hell to the fuck no

also needless jab at riot? that was there words

Overabundance of or nonsensical use of text - Large amounts of text copy pasta'd from the interwebs will probably be deleted. Yes, this includes posting entire chapters from Moby Dick. We also keep our eyes peeled for posts with nonsensical text that isn't relevant to the conversation. We apologize in advance to any Arabian princes negatively impacted by this.

there was nothing nonsensical about it. they still deleted the post.

The system fires a reform card through email, sharing the chat log of the offending player (we scrub other players’ names and chat logs) and the punishment for the behavior

lytes words not mine

i still havent gotten the email ill be waiting a month jsut to be told what should only taken 5 mins most after seeing the ticket. there's no reason for this other then dutiful negligence. the entire ticket was i hvent gotten a email that i was supposed to get and sure enough copy paste

guess what. ik they have the email for this account its proven in a different ticket.

Hello zane,

While the Tribunal is in recess, we're unable to provide specific chat logs or reform cards for chat restrictions. I'd be happy to help clarify what's going on but it's important to note ahead of time, we will not be removing or reducing the number of chat restrictions placed on an account

We've investigated your account and found higher than average levels of toxicity as a result of your actions in the matches you play. As a result, we have decided to place chat restrictions on your account to help you adjust your behavior in-game.

Our chat restriction system is in place while the Tribunal is currently in extended maintenance while the Development team works on improved features and enhancements.

The chat restriction system works by analyzing recently played games on your account. This doesn't take into account the amount of time that passes between games, which prevents players from simply waiting out punishments. Additional chat restrictions may be placed after your first round is complete if there is no visible improvement in behavior. It's possible to receive punishments harsher than chat restrictions should toxic behavior persist (including temporary and permanent suspensions).

It's important to remember that there is no excuse for being rude to others. If you think other players are intentionally trolling, then be sure to report them at the end of the game. Arguing with them in-game is rarely an effective tactic. If you're having a bad game, insulting your teammates doesn't help them improve, and it won't help you win the match. If you're not going to say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

If an argument is getting heated within the game, you have a few options. You can hide [ALL] chat, mute individual players, or move the chat box away from the screen.

For more advice on keeping to the Summoner's Code, check out this article:

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751874

And you can learn more about chat restrictions here:

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752984

Rigor Mortis Player Support Specialist Riot Games

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

it was activated for testing it clearly says it will send a email a past ticket proves the right email was linked to this account

they fucked up i caught them and they refuse to own up.. nothing good can ever be said about this kind of company that actively allows bad behavior a result of focusing only on one aspect.

zane yalgir1 votes

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Oh jesus I had a blitz who would only pull a friggin Leona at our team, like seriously how stupid can you be.

this game is full of people like that and if you say even one word you risk a ban the game itself is very good the pos company managing it however is a huge problem

seriously though if they wanted to fix the lag and what not they would have done so. nearly a year since the ddos and its still ass for sever stability and then theres lyte teams.....

probably the only ones who did good where the balance team you cant hardly solo carry less your stupidly fed which means they made a team game a team game

trust me i know im bad im very low gold at best so you can imagine how happy i am to get the amount of assholes trolls and feeders i get

Silents4291 votes

seriously though if they wanted to fix the lag and what not they would have done so. nearly a year since the ddos and its still ass for sever stability and then theres lyte teams.....

You must not be keeping up with the network roadmap, new servers are slated to be out before the end of the year.

zane yalgir1 votes

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You must not be keeping up with the network roadmap, new servers are slated to be out before the end of the year.

its not im not following it its i dont beilve it

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

i went way way out of my way to get a tribunal message...

lyte: The system fires a reform card through email, sharing the chat log of the offending player (we scrub other players’ names and chat logs) and the punishment for the behavior

it will be like 3 month for them to simply tell me why i did not get the said email. that is negligence and incompetency. -_- the few log they gave in a past ticket was a game i completely lost it and i was a solo with a premade in a normal... these chat rules from lyte there not aimed at stop abuse if they where hed be going after a very different kind of player who are purposely with clear intent playing to lose.

i jsut had a lee sit in the jungle at red and watch me and luci die and dragon get stolen his build was item 3031 item 3074 item 3111 item 3035 item 1038

no ganks no hp no amror no mr and in a ranked game. this is a genuine troll absolute cancer and i would get a ban for raging on him for being a clear why we lost.

this is solo que. possible to win? sure. problem is its bronze solo que that would mean kata and luci built and played with that intent.

again bronze solo que they are incapable of that,

a lee and gnar damage added togather was 16.8k as full tank bruam i did 15k...

gnar lost to kennen for him it was a bad game he tilted it was clear that he gave up to easily....

lee on the other hand had zero reason to be like that no one abused him no one stole from him he just wanted to throw a easily winnable game. so he did

Silents4291 votes

its not im not following it its i dont beilve it

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

i went way way out of my way to get a tribunal message...

Uh, doesn't matter if you believe it or not, players have gone from having constant ping spikes to none at all, My average ping was 120 and now its 95-100

End of the year they want the new servers moved to central US, whether you believe it means nothing when they have been giving results everyone has witnessed.

BakugoBestBoy2 votes

Genja is that you...?

Seriously though, you need to do damage. I know tanks are scary and kiting is hard and positioning correctly is completely out of the question but... item 3031 item 3046 item 3035 item 3072 item 3006 and then item 3139 item 3102 item 3143 oritem 3026 is basically the how you build an ADC if you want them to be relavent at 30+ minutes. Maybe swap out BT for Bork if the situation calls for it. There really aren't that many decisions you have to make in an ADC build path.

Need Gold 4 Tent5 votes

ADC don't really have much leeway to go in terms of itemisation though, except in their defenses (item 3140 for WW, item 3102 for combo reliant assassins, and the all-purpose item 3026 ). Perhaps in some uncommon cases of 5k+ hp tanks some may favour a item 3153 over item 3072 but the rest usually stays unchanged. item 3142, item 3071, item 3078 , item 3025 are typically preference picks, where one of the two item 3057 products are a core on any of the ADC that use them anyways.

JustMyBassCannon3 votes

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Perhaps in some uncommon cases of 5k+ hp tanks some may favour a item 3153 over item 3072 but the rest usually stays unchanged.

Actually, math tells us that BotRK is higher DPS than Bloodthirster. 8% of current HP beats the 55 bonus AD when a target has >687 HP. If a target has >1375 HP, BotRK will average more DPS than Bloodthirster due to the AS bonus. Even when you account for Crit multipliers, the target doesn't even need 3000 HP for BotRK to come out ahead again.

So, then, the choice between BotRK and Bloodthirster is not one of low vs. high HP enemies, but offensive vs. defensive Lifesteal items.

BotRK is much more directly offensive; between Bloodthirster's shield and doubled-up Lifesteal, it's better for an ADC's defense. It also works a little better on champs with more AD ratios.

Need Gold 4 Tent2 votes

Well well, waddya know? I'll have to revise MY builds now, I always expected BT to do more damage from the AD being able to crit. But that being said, still doesn't make ADC builds much more diverse. As mentioned, the only thing that changes is the lifesteal item, defense item and certain preference items. The cookiecutter build stays viable in pretty much every game.

chipndip13 votes

I don't think it's the adc's build path fking your climb over, more than anything.

Build paths are in generally straight forward unless you're in a bad spot, anyway.

Swollwonder1 votes

I can count five games where the adc was the reason we lost. Because they wont listen to me and build armor pen. Cause damages. Build paths are NOT straightforward after your first two items.

chipndip11 votes

If they needed armor pen, chances are they needed Ruined King over Blood Thirster. I rarely build Last Whisper over some regen item after my second crit item. If you're in a neutral/good spot, your build path is gonna be straight forward from IE -> second crit & boots -> regen -> whisper -> most likely defense. When there's someone getting fed off in the distance or you're noticing something wrong in team fights yourself...that's when you change your build path.

Woook3r1 votes

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I can count five games where the adc was the reason we lost. Because they wont listen to me and build armor pen. Cause damages. Build paths are NOT straightforward after your first two items.

dmg attack speed last whisper 90% of the time

DisasterSola2 votes

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I don't think it's the adc's build path fking your climb over, more than anything.

Build paths are in generally straight forward unless you're in a bad spot, anyway.

IE Boots Second crit item (PD/shiv) Last whisper Situational defense Situational item

50% crit and last whisper are your first three major items in all circumstances unless youre lucian or graves.

chipndip12 votes

50% crit and life steal are your first three items, Imo. You won't be able to last too well without life steal, and it's better for deleting the squishies.

I assume we're both just throwing in lvl 2 boots wherever we can between IE and second crit...

DisasterSola1 votes

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50% crit and life steal are your first three items, Imo. You won't be able to last too well without life steal, and it's better for deleting the squishies.

I assume we're both just throwing in lvl 2 boots wherever we can between IE and second crit...

Pretty much, yeah. You want last whisper just before your enemies get enough gold to start building armor.

Partholonian1 votes

It's not an adc's job to delete the squishies. Most of the squishies are trying to get to you so they can burst YOU down, because they have better burst than you do. Except the support (if it's not a tank support, which a lot of times it is) and sometimes the opposing adc, depending on matchup.

It IS an adc's job to finish off the enemy tanks that are still standing when all your own side's burst champions are on cooldown. And that's what you need Last Whisper for.

chipndip11 votes

Adcs and Apcs are the squishies, last I checked. It IS your job to remove them if you can reasonably reach them, and life steal is better for that than armor pen.

Lyrxen2 votes

I build what works, don't try to tell me what and what not to build

Swollwonder1 votes

Let me know how the IE Bloodthirster and statik work against the 5000 hp armor stacking amumu. But those items are what work right?

OmegaNITRO3 votes

Throw a Last Whisper in there and it's a party

Adeyemon1 votes

bork for bt

Lyrxen1 votes

If I'm winning, then does it matter wtf I build?

Lyrxen1 votes

And, I build for the situation, so, for real, get a life, and stop acting like you know everything

rockdalian1 votes

There's a reason why there's a set build its for you to do maximum damage if you go willy nilly with your build you're no longer effective for team fights yes TEAM fights the team needs you to do your damage if you don't they tend to die and be pissed regardless of whether you live the team needs the damage hence why you don't see yi rengar yas or riven in the adc role it's the only role that does not change in any meta or any game it's the most needed role on a team and if you can't play with a team you should find a single player game where you can do whatever you want no repercussions or screwing other people over but what do I know I don't even play ranked and all I'm saying is adc build path rarely changes adc is meant to melt tanks and take towers in seconds if you can't kill a tank no one on your team will be able 9 times outta ten

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

+1

Solari Fortune1 votes

I don't even use Mobafire, So what do I do then? o.o

3TWarrior1 votes

pure damage: late game: where'd their hp bar go? early game: where'd my hp bar go?

crit speed mix: hmm, this is fairly stable but i'm an easy target

pure life steal: hmm...I don't have the gold for this, lol

Swollwonder1 votes

Not even...no just no. Armor pen is usually what is missing. None of whatever you just typed.

3TWarrior1 votes

lol, well, most of riot's item suggestions are likely to get you killed unless the champ has no other build path

i'll leave this be because i'm not an expert, but killing an enemy in 2 shots instead of 6 feels a lot better

Silents4291 votes

What mistake exactly, All of them build item 3035 and most of the time item 3153 if they are smart.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

mobafire is cancer. use probuilds.

alternatively, use your fking brain.

fractalfantasies1 votes

Damn.

Always wondered why 3x Doran's Blade and a PD on Cait wasn't actually letting me win games at 20 mins

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