this style of play needs a hot fix asap. nerf this already. its the most cancerous and over powered and game health issue in the game at the moment. quite stupid. two shots the carry going full tank. master of all trades. tankiness. cc. damage. everything peel. needs a hot fix. I mean I had a match where we focused master yi and zed and tank ekko 100-0 two people on my team. he ended up doing more damage than the fed master yi.
Surfer Ashe18 votesIt's more the fact the metagolem build (
) is basically OP on any top laner.
Ekko just has a kit that can survive in a skirmish longer and is rewarded for doing so. His damage isn't "disgusting" - that title is reserved for tank Fiora.
MunchCrunchLunch4 votesi mean tank fiora still does more damage. but fiora DOESNT builld full tank. fiora builds hp items and sometimes 1 or 2 tank items but usually not. ekko goes full tank. the damage he does is plain too much
Surfer Ashe2 votesi mean tank fiora still does more damage. but fiora DOESNT builld full tank. fiora builds hp items and sometimes 1 or 2 tank items but usually not. ekko goes full tank. the damage he does is plain too much
His damage is from Sheen procs and Sunfire.
IBG gives too much CDR (anyone else remember when SV has 20% CDR and became must buy?) and Ekko's kit loves this.
Divewing12 votesHe's absolutely right though. Sunfire and IBG are simply disgusting at the moment, what's more there's little incentive to go AP since AP is garbage right now.
Spoofghoul7 votes & have had the same damage for years now never been a problem
It also doesnt really give you 100-0 burst
adds a little bit of sustained damage the items combined reuiwuire you to sit on someones face for 15 seconds before doing as much as 1 adc crit . . .
it really is ekko's base damage
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesFINALLY. Thank u. Played as Garen top against tank ekko, worst lane i ever had. His AA dmg (which he can do consistently thanks to his tankyness) is plain retarded. I guess he ranked up his W first that's why his dmg was that disgusting. Even with 100 mr and 150 armor i coldn't do shit. I mean i would'Ve won trades but he just needs to ult and get back into full health nearly.
Astôlfo1 votesMan, it's always hilarious to see how idiotic QQer logic is.
ScissorMyTibbers1 votes[{quoted}](name=Surfer Ashe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hNP5V6bW,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-04-06T10:57:30.495+0000)
It's more the fact the metagolem build (
Ekko just has a kit that can survive in a skirmish longer and is rewarded for doing so. His damage isn't "disgusting" - that title is reserved for tank Fiora.
I love playing tanks and I have always like these items because they were fun to use. However having them be viable on 75% of champs is kind of shitty. Atleast IBG nurf on the PBE (1.0 base ratio from 1.25). Not huge but, its something
Trynd Only Sorry2 votesNo, because tanks aren't outputting stupid amounts of damage with those items. It's ekko himself that's the problem.
Kuroi861 votes
Trynd Only Sorry1 votesMaybe that's your experience. Personally I don't have a problem with malphite until he's gotten 
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But by then I've usually picked up a 
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Kuroi861 votesUnless I'm fighting an ap champ, Mal tends to do well in lane. Grab some mana regen in runes/masteries, then work your way to whittling them down with Qs while trying not to miss any last hits, once you hit 6 then you "should" (If you've got them low and the enemy doesn't back before) be able to get a kill and snowball from there.
Trynd Only Sorry2 votesYeah, as my name would suggest it would be Tryn vs Malph.
Early game Tryn is much stronger, and can easily first blood malph with ignite. From there build rageblade and malphite is no longer really an issue. The low amount of damage he puts out is easily sustained through lifesteal and Q, especially with the AP from Blasting Wand/Guinsoo's.
Kuroi861 votesThen you're a much better Tryn than I've ever met in lane. Most Tryn players I've seen have to focus on late game because early they are typically going to get stomped in lane.
Trynd Only Sorry1 votesDepends on the match up, in the one I cited Malph doesn't have much kill pressure early, nor that much armor.
Voluug131 votesMalphite has armor scaling, so he does double scale with IBG and Sunfire.
But if he gets away with building pure armor that is more of your fault that him being OP.
AL0001 votesAny top laner?! include Garen?!
i think you meant 20% cdr, sheen and aoe magic damage.
try to rush this item = 
> 
> 
and you win your lane. that's a point where you got strong and tank.
for non-hit-on ad against ad
for non-hit-on ap against ad
any 20% ap item such as
Therefore it's not about item but manage your item building.
DrNova9 votesFull tank ekko isn't two shotting anyone.
His damage isn't that high. He can just survive while he sticks to you forever and keep applying it.
I do think his damage should be shifted more to ratios and away from base, but people are massively misrepresenting ekko's DPS and how fast he applies it.
LankPants5 votesI loved in the LCK interview where the interviewer was asking Score and Ssumday about Ekko and they basically just talked about how broken he is for 5 minutes straight. That's how you know Riot's balancing team's doing a good job.
UmmTastedPurple2 votesHey, could you link that?
I'd quite like learning more about it. Ty
MLDzXnRRR5 votesHis base damage is actually pathetic compared to most assasins and mages and you can even dodge most of it . Tank Diana, Fizz, Akali do more dmg than him, but bring no good CC.
DorkunedAuras1 votesHe has a lot of CC, but his big thing is his W passive that always lets him do damage to lowish people, because % hp. What other assassin has % hp? Zed passive and fizz W (missing hp).
Fiora is technically an assassin, but meh
Kuroi862 votes% missing health really only hurts tanky champs. Not to mention, it works against targets below 30% health.
I mean 5% (+ 2.2% per 100 AP) isn't as bad as you'd think. With no AP, you're only looking at 5 damage per 100 health.
DorkunedAuras1 votesIs it really that low?
I still argue he shouldn't have that, but I could swear it was more powerful. Should've done research.
In that case, I have no clue why tank ekko is doing so much, but I can vouch he's powerful, he's been denting my games too.
Kuroi862 votesHe's capable of doing damage over time. A three hit passive, reasonably low cooldown on his main damage abilities (7 seconds) at later levels, plus once you're below 30% hp he gets bonus damage on hit. Now make that tanky and you've got a champ that is going to keep on whittling away at you until you croak. And for squishy champs... well they're squishy, they tend to pop fairly easily.
Fjiordor4 votesYou want pre hotfix release ekko back?
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesi dont know what that is but doesnt sound good.
disregardable4 votesIT WAS THE BEST THING EVER. If you were the one playing him.
You usually got out of lane with a kill before level 6. Then at 6 you could dive them. It was so fun. Late game he two shot squishies. Literally just Q+E dead.
Fjiordor4 votesHow2penta press q press r
MisterShameless3 votesWith a rageblade, wits end and maw, I melted a full build tank ekko as kog mow even when he ulted on top of me.
lslands4 votesKog is another issue entirely with is 56% winrate
Darth StepVader3 votesOne solution. Nerf his abilities' base damage and buff the ratios. Glass cannon Ekko remains the same, stupid tank ekko that outpeels everything is nerfed to the ground....
MrryZ2 votesThis ^
Mazariamonti3 votesBetter fix is to remove percent health damage on champions who never really needed it in the first place.
Trynd Only Sorry4 votesBetter fix is to remove percent health damage on champions who never really needed it in the first place.
Athenes Lulu3 votesTank Fizz was far worse.
At least tank Ekko can't 100-0 squishies in a second.
Enrovy3 votesSo essentially any champ with insane mobility and can build tanky and still do bs damage, basically 
rito why you no nerf? like seriously
The 99th Problem1 votesAmen.
Trynd Only Sorry2 votesprobably because is terrible enough in the current meta already.
Honestly though, she's not bad, but she's nowhere near OP.
CreamyManCandy2 votesTankko
Gene Freakz2 votesTell that to the Ekko main who went 0/8/1 in my last game trying to go tank Ekko.
Wenderwall2 votesYou haven't faced tank Fizz who gets penta kills. He builds 
as the only AP ( with 50MR) item and rest all tank ( no damage, just armor, hp and mr)
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesI have once on toplane, he started with sunfire cape and outdamaged me in every way with 0! AP in the beginning. (only the mastery giving ad+ap per lvl) Worst lane i ever experienced. Oh and once a (pre nerf) devourer, tank fizz in the jungle. Disgusting.
Wenderwall1 votesYup, it is retarded when champs just build tank and out damage. Everyone says it's the items but then again, where did fizz get damage from ? Broken ass abilities with 0 counter play ( unless team has 5 hard CC - 5 
to point-click hard CC + kill.
Cruxious2 votesHes perma banned when im allowed to ban. Champions kit is super overloaded and Riot keeps on buffing him.
J E B A ł T E D2 votesIt's tank items where the problem lies not the kits
LatetotheRace2 votesA wonderful mix of powerful items, and his overloaded kit. (If he had a veigar ult nuke, it would have everything.)
DarkLarvitar2 votesI don't think you even play this game
Zefirez1 votesI do love me a tank ekko in my team, signed 
AninLegions7771 votesPlayed this for the first time today after seeing the hype. Went as support, got 13/7/8. I could 1v4 and come out alive. Did this so many times. One thing I noticed tho, is that champions like Fiora, Yasuo, Shyvana and Vayne have no issue killing tank Ekko. Vayne and Yasuo can only kill him if he's not able to hit his stun and ult.