Queue'd up as Bard in Team Builder..
Support.
Got kicked out of 5 Queue's before I got a game. #BardLife
Support.
Got kicked out of 5 Queue's before I got a game. #BardLife
I only pick Bard for one reason.
I'll usually fill any role, but every now and then I get stuck with support like 3-4+ games in a row. By the 4th or 5th game I get kinda fed up, so I pick Bard. Someone dodges more often than not :}
Best 6300 ip I ever spent.
I got fed up with having to constantly go support yesterday... I have nothing wrong with supporting, I just finally had enough with how no one else in the whole community wants to support, but suddenly top and mid is the super popular place to be... I want to go check out other lanes too, you know
one else in the whole community wants to support
The forgotten. The neglected. The support mains.
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The forgotten. The neglected. The support mains.
You'd think that after a support main was voted MVP of Worlds 2014, we'd get more attention.
Nah.
It's way harder to carry a game as support, you are also usually the person that gets flamed the most at (mainly ADC). There is a reason it's the least picked role.
i've seen alot of good supports carry the game by just carrying the ADC early. You do your job, let the ADC do his late game. For me a good support can make all the difference in the world
ADC main speaking. Huge respect for good supports <3
Now let's hear an opinion from a non ADC main or a terrible ADC main
We already know their opinion: if they're winning lane they are awesome, if they are losing their support sucks.
My opinion is that most support mains are always moping about "how bad" all the other role mains are and dehumanizing adc mains. There's that and there's those "Better than thou" support mains.
i actually decided to main support this season. got struck down to bronze from silver but im having a lot more fun then i did in mid or top lane. too much stress up there. here i just let my adc farm and keep all the baddies away
I once considered maining support too, currently i'm an ADC main, i do love to play ADC and it is fun but the thing is.... this role demands so much responsibility, your slightest mistakes can have the biggest effect on the game. support is a really "chill" role but when i support my team usually sucks and i feel the need to go back playing ADC
It's a bard knock life for me~
It's a bard knock life for me~
http://25.media.tumblr.com/1944fb1d381b33853e795b5f0a7d9070/tumblr_mtvbo1w7Px1sehb77o1_500.gif Stick that in your pipe and smoke it ~Dr. Evil
Bard
is so crap that I lost 5 games out of the last 13 that I played with him.
Seriously. 5 games out of 13! Can you believe it?? It's like 60% or something. This champion is so crap I can't adc with him AND I PLAY with 239 ping on solo queue with a toaster. (It's not really a toaster, I use it to heat pizzas.)
If only there was a champion that could heal 1/3 of your life after you place his packs and wait 10s. If only we had a champion that could reliably heal the jungler to full health before the 3 min mark without moving out of lane. I'm telling you, Riot is trolling us. I mean, how dare they give us a champion that is hard to play? If only we had a support that could recover 24% of his mana just by collecting 2 chimes.
Riot should have buffed him and let him earn 30g with frostfang and meeps when he hits the enemy champion. It's not as if Bard can stun 2 people every 7s right? And team fights. Don't get me started on teamfights. Bard does nothing in teamfights. With 50 chimes his AA does only 175 dmg and slows the whole enemy team for 45% for THREE TIMES!!! Wait, wait, i mean... 3 TIMES ONLY!?!?! How am i supposed to get kills with this? At least Lux has a 36% slow with her maxed E. Why did you do this Riot? It's as if a bunch of very talented players are banking on the fact that everyone underestimates Bard to lose only 40% of their games. I mean, I have never seen these guys but they look really handsome.
Seriously Riot. Why did you nerf the range on his Q?
This comment is so untrue that I definetly didn't upvote it ! This champ is so trash that i only won 100% of my ranked games with him ! Can you believe it ? ONLY 100% !! Plz Rito rework him, he's not viable.
I completely understand you Goomboo. Damn! Being awesome is such a burden! Wait, wait, i mean...
BARD BAD! HE NEEDS MORE BUFFS!
Don't worry. I Can "fix" him for you.
Kalista, are you off your meds again?
I told you. Last time you stopped taking your medicine, Karma got reworked! and we had to spend all the weekend to hide the corpses.
I'm a Poke mage.
TO WAR!
Were you bitches saying anything?
I've yet to see any "bitches" in this topic.
Nor have I.
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Seriously. 5 games out of 13! Can you believe it?? It's like 60% or something. This champion is so crap I can't adc with him AND I PLAY with 239 ping on solo queue with a toaster. (It's not really a toaster, I use it to heat pizzas.)
5 loss out of 13 then mean that there is stasticaly 25 chance out of 169 (nearly 25% of the chance) that it's actualy 7 loss our of 13 (46% win rate) and that you just got marginaly lucky in your games. 1 player out of 4 would get your result. Making relevant stats on so few data is pretty hard.
I'd bet on this because every one else is at 46% with bard.
If you have 1 single button that improve your chance to win by 4% in a game (say kick bard) yes you are tempted to use it.
$10 that once bard gets played in the LCS people will say hes good
I remember a time just a month or 2 ago. You could get reported for playing support Nautilus.
1 LCS match later . . .
Wow, a whole 10 bucks?
I'd be willing to bet far bigger numbers because the odds of that happening are so damned near 100% that you may as well just get the money as soon as the other party agrees.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
Most Bards feed and they are pretty useless if they dont understand his abilities so i usually kick them from my games too lol xD
I try to play Bard only to practice on team builder or draft, but everyone assumes it is a troll pick.
Most Bards feed and they are pretty useless if they dont understand his abilities so i usually kick them from my games too lol xD
Most ADC's and Junglers don't know how to work with Bard, I play bard and see him, not once have I seen him feed or be bad, just players that ignore him or don't use his abilities
(jungler has health pack next to their gromp, walks around it to do red then leaves it there with 50% hp ganks mid. Mid ALSO has a health pack, jungler avoids that one too, ganks mid, mid dies, jungler over extends and enemy mid gets double kill - jungler and Mid both decide to fight with 50% hp and ignore two health packs, so if bard dies to a fed mid lane ganking bot, he's not the one feeding!)
Almost every adc takes the first heal because... they like shiny objects, completely missing the point that the first heal is essentially free since bard can regen mana before fighting starts, but no, waste it because it looks pretty
Not to mention allies seeing a magical journey and deciding to run around it into the jungle instead, either getting ambushed or arriving to the fight too late.
9/10 it's because people don't know how to play WITH a bard on their team, not because the player doesn't know how to use him, but because everyone skips, boots, or surr @20 when they see him, they haven't learnt any better yet. It'll be months before people start appreciating the caretaker
Honest question. If we trade in lane, and minion waves reset, am I allowed to take a HP pack or two? Or is that...junglers? Idk. Bard players confuse me, but I love em (minus the time I got zhonya'd while fleeing...that hurt my 17/0 kda courtesy of bard).
I think Bard's ultimate is great but sometimes without instant communication, I can accidentally mess people up especially if we have different ideas in our head. Usually my ults are pretty good so my team is willing to forgive it... but it still sucks :/
yep =) my bard games people are cheering about how amazing it is to see a good bard, or they're yelling "report" I just think he has a very high skill cap (probably higher than my ability, but learning)
the Idea of reporting someone for choosing a certain champ...seriously. In the role he was designed for. WTF is wrong with people?
I think Bard's ultimate is great but sometimes without instant communication, I can accidentally mess people up especially if we have different ideas in our head.
Yep. So glad Bard is the only one with this problem.
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(F Kalista.)
Most ADC's and Junglers don't know how to work with Bard
That's kinda the issue with Bard though. Not only is he hard to play, your team has to be on board and know how to work with him, to provide the same amount of power as any other support could without those requirements.
I remember when Riot considered this particular offense worthy of deletion.
R.i.P. Karma. (Who was even less team dependent!)
I think you right, although I guess that is technically one of his weaknesses. In my opinion, however, every player should at least know the basics of every champ. For example, I had an adc grab an hp shrine before the first jungle creeps appeared. He simply did not know and did not do it again. Another situation the mid roamed bot, so it was me, my adc, and mid all in the tri-bush and the enemy adc/supp were attacking our tower. I made a path to cut them off, threw a q, stunned em both...and then saw my adc and mid walk all the way around while I got slaughtered. When I asked why they didn't take the tunnel they both said they didn't know what Bard did.
I have had plenty of great games with Bard too where the jungler realized that when I'm roaming for chimes while hes on the same side of the jungle he will have the easiest gank of his life.
Once people play with him more they'll see he is actually pretty damn good. His biggest weakness is the same weakness many supports share...that he does no damage mid-late game and so if his team is doing bad he is useless.
The one player designed to gank for the jungler, not vice versa.
Welcome to the school of Bard knocks.
I was in Team builder as Vayne
Bard enters lobby and says only, "Anyone but Vayne" and leaves.
It messed me up.
I was in Team builder as Vayne
Bard enters lobby and says only, "Anyone but Vayne" and leaves.
It messed me up.
Ironically, some of my best bard games are with vayne. If Vayne ulti's and they flash away, you ulti and they can't escape. You stun them together, then vayne stuns them against wall, they are dead in seconds. Vayne relies a lot on positioning, and Bards utility is great for even low mobility champs, so on Vayne the chase is OP, 0 escape potential
Ironically, some of my best bard games are with vayne. If Vayne ulti's and they flash away, you ulti and they can't escape. You stun them together, then vayne stuns them against wall, they are dead in seconds. Vayne relies a lot on positioning, and Bards utility is great for even low mobility champs, so on Vayne the chase is OP, 0 escape potential
I've loved bard Supp as Vayne. Anyone with a stun works brilliantly with her, the heal helps for those messy trades Vayne occassionally must make. You can't run from Vayne as is and Bard makes sure it's even less possible and they're not very gankable with the heals Bard can place, his ult, and her ult/q/byebye.
"ulti/q/byebye" needs to have it's own meme :D
I queued up as mid Ezreal. Got kicked out of so many lobbies it took me around 45 minutes to an hour to finally join a team. Mid Ez isn't even bad, I dominated with him! People are just WAY too picky in teambuilder to get their perfect LCS combo team.
They're probably the same fuckers who used to kick people trying to queue up Nautilus/Brand support before those Dark Horse articles.
Most adcs can't handle being alone for 5 minutes. That's why.
More than you might think, the hyper carry adc champs are pretty popular for the meta right now and those champs can't have Bard as a support cause Bard needs to roam and they can't lane solo. Really Bard needs to be taken as a roaming champion in place of jungle but not as a jungle champion himself. Such as a Clairvoyance and Teleport over Smite and Flash.
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Most adcs can't handle being alone for 5 minutes. That's why.
What many people still don't understand is "How to roam as bard" Bard actually has a very strong lane sustain, and can stay in lane much longer than other mage supports. Without any mana regen runes, I can stay in lane almost indefinitely. With a few healing shrines, I can grab the "nearby spawning" chimes in the periods when the lane is fully pushed, or when the adc goes back. I can grab chimes, fully restore mana, help jungler with a magical journey or shrine, and get back to lane before the adc notices that I'm gone, I mean, Twitch roams more than that when he pulls back to do a stealth gank. People think Bard has to roam from level 1 and leave adc alone for 5 minutes at a time, your adc is only alone for 30 seconds tops, and even that should only happen if you can successfully accomplish something elsewhere (as in, a sure kill or save a lane with an ulti or wave clear) otherwise, you shouldn't just be roaming collecting chimes, they are present for about 10 minutes, there's no rush to nab them, in fact, having them remain until mid game makes warding safer, since if you get caught alone you move so far so fast that the enemy are fools for chasing you (which they have done with me, right into 3 of my team mates while the rest of theirs are stuck in my ulti after they failed to enter my magical journey) Bard excels at breaking formations, and forcing 4 v 3 and other similar scenarios
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Most adcs can't handle being alone for 10 seconds. That's why.
FTFY