The fact that the crit item change in season 8 make most marksmen "weak"
Shows just how excessively stat check marksmen are as a class.
Shows just how excessively stat check marksmen are as a class.
What?
They were nerfed both massively in items, runes and base stats, if any class got nerfs like they did they would also become completely useless.
You think bruisers would still be a thing if they nerfed Conqueror + trinity + steraks + titanic + tiamat + maw/hexdrinker + GA + black cleaver AND their base stats in the same patch?
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What?
They were nerfed both massively in items, runes and base stats, if any class got nerfs like they did they would also become completely useless.
You think bruisers would still be a thing if they nerfed Conqueror + trinity + steraks + titanic + tiamat + maw/hexdrinker + GA + black cleaver AND their base stats in the same patch?
No they are stat check. They got dropped like a rock if at all weak since the better stat check marksmen are the ones to play. There are a few that break this to some degree but take some power out of Vayne and Jinx and those same players who had been playing Vayne and Jinx will switch to Caitlyn and Ashe since they are the best stat check options.
The only 3 that truly break away from being stat check are Kai'sa, Kalista and Ezreal with Draven and Lucian to a lesser degree. But then again all of them have their own clearly unique defining factors in how they are played.
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No they are stat check. They got dropped like a rock if at all weak since the better stat check marksmen are the ones to play. There are a few that break this to some degree but take some power out of Vayne and Jinx and those same players who had been playing Vayne and Jinx will switch to Caitlyn and Ashe since they are the best stat check options.
The only 3 that truly break away from being stat check are Kai'sa, Kalista and Ezreal with Draven and Lucian to a lesser degree. But then again all of them have their own clearly unique defining factors in how they are played.
No class in the game (not even mages) would survive a nerf like adcs got on 8.11 so again im not sure what you are talking about, what does that has to do with anything? Is this just a blind anti adc bias thread?
It was the patch with the biggest nerfs to a single class in the history of the game if im not mistaken.
sure if you continue to play like you never got nerfed you do worse if you actually did get nerfed but adcs didnt get nerfed tey got buffed and only things that were impacted negatively was time to buy due to slight gold increases. with better stats totally made up for
Nerfed in items by buffing their crit chance and ad avaliable. nerfed in base stats by increased base hp and less base ad at level 1 and that evens out at level 5 and shoots forward to level 18 and better base attack speed and better attack speed per level. Nerfed*[sg-miss-fortune]* those runes were unbalanced fleet of foot work lethal temo and press the attack were and are too effective on marskmen.
Nerfed in items by buffing their crit chance and ad avaliable. nerfed in base stats by increased base hp and less base ad at level 1 and that evens out at level 5 and shoots forward to level 18 and better base attack speed and better attack speed per level. Nerfed*[sg-miss-fortune]*
They gave them 6 more hp....
And yes, crit got so much better thats why a week in the patch ppl werent playing a single adc bot lane anymore, but bruisers and mages, its just that adcs were so OP that both teams secretly agreed that nobody would pick that broken as fk class right?
Like are you actually that delusional?
6 at level 1 and every level after. they get more than a ruby crystal on each and every marksmen half of a finished tank items max hp
6 at level 1 and every level after. they get more than a ruby crystal on each and every marksmen half of a finished tank items max hp
Are you seriously comparing that to every adc losing 4~5 armor AT LVL 1 and halving their hp5?
You think thats a POSITIVE CHANGE? Wtf.
5 overall armor to 60+ hp. Adcs hp5 being halved while its a slight loss in power it isnt even relivant because adcs full up off of the lifesteal they have from level one due to dorans blade. (which scales with any ad and attack speed or damage aplification to their autos 'crit' they get) until they get another lifesteal item.
If I cut the stats on Trinity Titanic and Sterak's in half it'd make Irelia weak. Doesn't mean she's a statcheck, it means you fucking gutted her items.
Same fucking thing here. If you nerf an entire class's items they're weak because of that.
Except they never got nerfs they got buffs and rebalancing to do the same thing in a slightly different way