Haha, oh no, Ziggs is now a meta bot laner! XD

Elite4Runner·Jan 3, 2017·2 votes·861 views

Can we stop for a second and realize that Ziggs hasn't had any actual balance changes since....

PATCH 6.9

The fact that he is being played in the bottom lane isn't a result of anything that is new in regards to him.

He has been "capable" of playing in the bottom lane this whole time, simply because he is able to do what an ADC needs to do.

The reason that people are doing it now is really just because someone (a.k.a. Korea, .. since we certainly never figure this shit out ourselves) has realized that he is not quite as vulnerable to the assassin meta as ADCs.

Personally, I like this because I have never liked how most ADCs are exclusively picked for the bottom lane.

I would honestly like to see them become more viable in other lanes, and I would like to see AP champions become more viable in the bottom lane with a support. ... or without a support!

Change up the meta!

11 Comments

Sahn UzalJan 3, 20174 votes

Oooor people just caught up to the fact that Bottom Ziggs does a really good job at getting that First blood tower with ease.

Elite4RunnerJan 3, 20171 votes

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Oooor people just caught up to the fact that Bottom Ziggs does a really good job at getting that First blood tower with ease.

But he could do that before.

HE HASN'T CHANGED!!

And before you say, "but he didn't have a support to help him push the wave", .. he could have just roamed bottom lane and popped it after they did all of the work.

The fact that it wasn't common doesn't mean it wasn't possible, or that it wasn't actually done.

Sahn UzalJan 3, 20171 votes

Oooor people just caught up

It has been possible for a while, it only recently caught people's attention. Are we actually argueing to prove the same damn point?

Elite4RunnerJan 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hEk7ALAI,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-03T11:22:44.650+0000)

It has been possible for a while, it only recently caught people's attention. Are we actually argueing to prove the same damn point?

Lol I guess we are :p

Sorry, that sounded like something someone might say to prove that he is somehow better than he was before simply because he is played in the bottom lane.

I don't underestimate the level of ignorance people have when it comes to trying to actually debate something on here, so sometimes it makes me a little unnecessarily defensive.

Glad we are on the same page.

morris1Jan 3, 20171 votes

ADCs fell out of favor with early game junglers overwhelming the bot lane.

Shifue DravenJan 3, 20172 votes

This is what made me laugh ziggs only changed on the mage update and still got no play and i love him when i can mid but now he is getting popular people really need to spread from the meta picks and see that other champs are rather good. Not saying all of them are but a lot are.

Ethan AllenJan 3, 20171 votes

Thx Shipthur

ArnoldSchwarzensJan 3, 20171 votes

It actually wasn't Korea and it wasn't Shiphtur, the first one to pioneer it was someone named "Broeki" who first did it in high elo. Spread the word!

Elite4RunnerJan 3, 20171 votes

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It actually wasn't Korea and it wasn't Shiphtur, the first one to pioneer it was someone named "Broeki" who first did it in high elo. Spread the word!

Irrelevant.

Surfer AsheJan 3, 20171 votes

You do realize Cait hasn't been touched since the beginning of S6 and now only recently became one of the most bitched about champions

It doesn't matter since they were last touched if the environment changes to favor these champs.

Elite4RunnerJan 3, 20171 votes

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You do realize Cait hasn't been touched since the beginning of S6 and now only recently became one of the most bitched about champions

It doesn't matter since they were last touched if the environment changes to favor these champs.

I realize that people bitch over stupid shit all the time with little to no intention of making any useful suggestions as to how things could actually be solved.

Pointing out problems doesn't necessarily help find solutions.