[POLL] Who here thinks Ashe should still have a permaslow?

darkdill·Dec 5, 2014·4 votes·254 views

Vote below.

11 Comments

Cale017Dec 5, 20142 votes

Downvoted just because you said not to downvote.

darkdillDec 5, 20141 votes

Reported for harassment.

Cale017Dec 5, 20141 votes

Except there's no harassment. Just me pointing out that demanding people not use their own freedoms of expression to downvote a needless poll is both attention whoring and downright idiotic. The downvote button exists for a reason, as several others besides myself have shown on this post.

Try again next time, but make sure you buy a vowel first. Otherwise this is a game of words you're bound to lose.

Yxion the YordleDec 5, 20141 votes

Downvoted just because you said not to downvote.

Upvoted for justice! In response to Yousosmart: I am all for something to that effect. It gets rid of the annoying permaslow at the same time a stronger proc slow with maybe a 1.5-2 sec duration would give a 'similar' effect over sustained attack duration without that initial "Ashe got 1 aa off on me now I am permascrewed." feeling. Also I think they should change her aoe dmg ability too. It's decent, but I think they can shift some power away from that and allow them to kill off 'hawk shot' (or whatever it is called) and give her something better... like an inherent resistance to slow (10...15%)? Idk. She was cool back in season 1 and then just pretty much died off after lee sin exsisted.

Cale017Dec 5, 20141 votes

She was never meant to be anything more than a beginner champion. That's why her kit is so simple, and it has such a shallow learning curve. The permaslow exists to help players understand the idea of slows, her ult is to help them understand global ults and AoE stuns, her volley is an easy clear, and her Hawkshot helps with vision and gold generation, which directly helps new players who won't be quite so skilled with CS. The permaslow on her kit is there to help them learn better positioning and to give some leeway as they try to get down the mechanics of being an ADC; keeping distance from an enemy while remaining in motion yourself. Reworking that aspect of her takes away her ability to be used as a beginner champ or afford newbies the learning curve that not many other champions in this game are so generous with.

Sightless66Dec 5, 20142 votes

Until a better proposal exists, yes.

Kuroi86Dec 5, 20142 votes

Ashe needs a rework.

Yxion the YordleDec 5, 20141 votes

I voted yes, but if they did a rework I would not be sad at seeing it go if it made her a better adc.

darkdillDec 5, 20141 votes

I would like a remake that removes it if it meant Ashe could have actual power.

I.E. Frost Shot could change to a stack effect where if you get three (or so) stacks on the target, you inflict a strong slow instead of what she has right now.

Leti the YetiDec 5, 20141 votes

its like you wanted downvotes

Cale017Dec 5, 20141 votes

I said it in the comments below, but because some people apparently aren't getting the joke I'll give a more proper response here to better justify my downvote, although you crying out for people not to is reason enough.

"She was never meant to be anything more than a beginner champion. That's why her kit is so simple, and it has such a shallow learning curve. The permaslow exists to help players understand the idea of slows, her ult is to help them understand global ults and AoE stuns, her volley is an easy clear, and her Hawkshot helps with vision and gold generation, which directly helps new players who won't be quite so skilled with CS. The permaslow on her kit is there to help them learn better positioning and to give some leeway as they try to get down the mechanics of being an ADC; keeping distance from an enemy while remaining in motion yourself. Reworking that aspect of her takes away her ability to be used as a beginner champ or afford newbies the learning curve that not many other champions in this game are so generous with."

Unless you're going to come up with a champion who can fill that role to replace Ashe, she's perfectly fine the way she is. She isn't overpowered, and anyone who truly loves to play as her, myself included, understand what she's there to do and will still enjoy her either way. Not every champ has to have the capability to make game winning plays off of every ability, and Ashe does just fine the way she is.