Games over at 10 mins due to mismatched teams rng.

teto god supp·Aug 8, 2019·21 votes·10,498 views

Gratz riot. you did it. only pros can play this game now since everyone ints so hard before 10 mins its all over.

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24 Comments

The thigh guyAug 8, 201913 votes

Games are over at 10 minutes because 1 kill is worth over 1200 gold.

DuskDaUmbreonAug 8, 20195 votes

When the flying fuck is that ever happening unless Pyke executes someone with max bounty? How the fuck are you picking up 8+ kills by 10 minutes and still dying?

The thigh guyAug 8, 20197 votes

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When the flying fuck is that ever happening unless Pyke executes someone with max bounty? How the fuck are you picking up 8+ kills by 10 minutes and still dying?

Because a kill isn’t just 300 gold. Let’s assume you got first blood. So 400 gold Then add 2 turret plates of gold. So 360 Then add roughly 2 waves of minions. 400 400+360+400=1160 gold.

DuskDaUmbreonAug 8, 20195 votes

How are you getting 400 gold from 2 waves? That's 12 minions and they only give 15-18 gold each. Even at the most generous that's 216. Cannon isn't adding 184 gold.

And how tf are you losing two plates to first blood? Like maybe depending on when it happens, sure, that's possible. But that doesn't explain how you got 4 waves worth of gold from 2 waves.

The thigh guyAug 8, 20191 votes

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How are you getting 400 gold from 2 waves? That's 12 minions and they only give 15-18 gold each. Even at the most generous that's 216. Cannon isn't adding 184 gold.

And how tf are you losing two plates to first blood? Like maybe depending on when it happens, sure, that's possible. But that doesn't explain how you got 4 waves worth of gold from 2 waves.

It was an approximate. :/ minions are worth an average of 20 gold throughout a game. Then include a cannon.

Venging AngelAug 8, 20191 votes

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It was an approximate. :/ minions are worth an average of 20 gold throughout a game. Then include a cannon.

This spreadsheet might be helpful. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWLkx5LmGLrK5-EqgJ4Je-PRtloWAE6qJn9GJt-16qU/edit#gid=0

DuskDaUmbreonAug 8, 20192 votes

How tf do you get an approximate of twice what's possible.

The thigh guyAug 8, 20191 votes

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How tf do you get an approximate of twice what's possible.

Can you math? 20*12+70(cannon)=310

DuskDaUmbreonAug 9, 20192 votes

How the fuck are you getting an average of 20 for non-cannon? Average is 17.5.

Venging AngelAug 8, 20191 votes

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Games are over at 10 minutes because 1 kill is worth over 1200 gold.

Interesting assumption. Let's see if we can play with the numbers to clarify what you might mean - because think that you might be onto something, though you weren't clear initially.

Let's omit first blood to keep it simple. We'll also ignore the supports due to their passive on their items and assume that the jungler is not present to clear the wave afterwards. So that means you get 300g for your first kill on an oppoent. Then, typically, you lose approximately 1 1/2 waves worth of minions, rounded to the nearest hundred (600g + 300g) - assuming that you are toplane and you took ignite. So, yes that would add up to about 1200g per kill - now let's factor in a single turret plate which is worth 160g.

So, we could be looking at anywhere from 1300 to 1400g as a relative gold difference between two solo laners in the early stages of the game. (Note that this is not saying that one laner actually has that amount - but it is a relative difference between the two sides.)

The KombinatorAug 8, 20195 votes

The matchmaking is perfect, and you just so below your level. Maybe don't boost that much next time. League of Legends is the perfect game, and anyone who says differently are just not good enough.

Neumím RivenAug 8, 20195 votes

Not sure if sarcasm or you mean it seriously

LPelican Aug 9, 20191 votes

im baffled that people downvoted this and didn't get the sarcasm w t f

Akali PrimeAug 8, 20193 votes

every single ranked game i have lost in the passed 2 days has been because one or more of my teammates hard fed the enemy or afked in early game.

please make ranked based on individual skill.

DukuesAug 8, 20191 votes

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every single ranked game i have lost in the passed 2 days has been because one or more of my teammates hard fed the enemy or afked in early game.

please make ranked based on individual skill.

I am having a really hard time not rank bashing you (keep in mind I am not a high rank at all) but the reality is this. You have played 1k ranked games this season in the lowest parts of silver-bronze. An above average skilled player would win a majority of these games and rank up to at least like silver 1 or 2 idk shits a little different this season. And I know how fucking shitty silver is to play in trust me I also hate it. Buuuutttt the reality is there is a lot you can do to win each game or at least most games even when they seem unwinnable. But there a couple problems. You really need to be in a decent mood, if on tilt you going to play worse and it just makes it that much harder to win. You also need to improve and figure out what works for you then you will see the light and rank up until you hit your next skill ceiling. Like for me on the cusp of plat after all these years part of me feels worse than I ever have at the game. Like.... there is just so much I need to improve on to rank higher, but at the same time I am probably more consistent and better at the game now than I ever have been. I can play a bunch of champs in norms an fuck around and do well most games regardless of other players ranks most of the time. And even in all gold games now, which in the past would have been a challenge I find now are not too bad. It's just one of those things. The more you learn the higher you climb and then the more you realize you need to learn and that's how it works.

Silver is really hard to play in because the game is very unorthodox. Trying to play "properly" doesn't generally work because the skill levels of people so random. Its more about caring hard and trying to lead your team to victory or stopping enemy team from winning.

All I know is I used to cry and bitch about my teammates a lot and I couldn't get out of silver. Then I finally improved and got to mid gold where I been chilling but I accepted I wasn't good enough to rank higher and was ok with it. But finally this season I decided to push myself so that's what I have been doing (plus riot changing rank distributions a bit has helped). Anyways, the whole thing is like a snowball effect just like a game of League. The better you get the easier it is to the climb plus the higher you climb where you meet new challenges and learn more which results in having to improve but once you do lower elos get even easier to play through and climb in because you are just that much better than you used to be at the average player. But when you get bogged down by emotions and you stop focusing on improving you get stuck and stay somewhere until you decide to push through and improve.

RazelthAug 8, 20191 votes

Yeah. Its really unfortunate for you that Riot decided your account will stay in the depths of Bronze. In my case, Riot decided that all my teammates shall do is feed me the win and thus I have reached D4. You should make a new account in the hopes that Riot puts the good RNG on you.

ClawMyKneeAug 9, 20191 votes

You think its funny, but its actually part of truth. I had account with garbage elo, stacked in gold 2. And i got p3 at new account with 2 month. Stupid? Yepp. But my first acc was really unfortunate.

FSRERAug 8, 20192 votes

If only it was the unfair matchmaking the only problem here. Many lanes are unfortunately decided in champion picking phase. What can a Sion do to a Irelia? What can a Syndra do to a Zed? What can anyone do to Yuumi? Whoever picks first loses, this is modern League

NoctaelAug 8, 20191 votes

I had a S3 Top Yi in my first promo match into G3. There were 2 silvers on my team and 1 on the enemy team. Just watching him play, it was clear that he wasn't intentionally feeding, he just sucked because he just didn't know what to do.

It's like Riot basically said, "yea. you. you're losing this game. HF". What's wrong with their matchmaking that they can't find a decent even match in GOLD. I could understand autofills in Diamond+ because the pool is so small, but it's GOLD.

Not to mention, I understand people have bad games, and it's okay to have one feeder per team. But these games are just so lopsided it's ridiculous.

MLDzXnRRRAug 9, 20191 votes

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I had a S3 Top Yi in my first promo match into G3. There were 2 silvers on my team and 1 on the enemy team. Just watching him play, it was clear that he wasn't intentionally feeding, he just sucked because he just didn't know what to do.

It's like Riot basically said, "yea. you. you're losing this game. HF". What's wrong with their matchmaking that they can't find a decent even match in GOLD. I could understand autofills in Diamond+ because the pool is so small, but it's GOLD.

Not to mention, I understand people have bad games, and it's okay to have one feeder per team. But these games are just so lopsided it's ridiculous.

Promo games are rigged, so you have to grind. Everyone knows this. The whole promo system is made to be grinded and actual matchmaking outside of promos doesn't progress anything - you can be silver/gold and be matched with diamonds, if you have somehow have insane winning streak with high CS and ward score, because system detects you are a smurf. It's all about MMR and that's a number, forget about divisions.

PiVoRxAug 8, 20191 votes

The flow of this game (mostly for late game champs): Lose bot tower in around 10 min Lose every other tower in 20 min Play tower defense game for around another 10-20 min hoping enemies will throw Get rolled cause everyone in your team is 1 full item and 2 lvls behind and enemies got baron.