The way other roles treat the support makes me not want to support anymore

4NoxiousHours··4 votes·510 views

Ive encountered appreciative people and I've encountered unappreciated people. But when I hear someone say that the support is "the bitch" of the game, it makes me feel rather uncomfortable playing as one.

I'm not sure if it's because of the name of the role or the whole concept of what a support does throughout the game but I'm starting to see and feel that the role is the LEAST respected and appreciated role.

I've also noticed that depending on the champion you play will depend what kind of edgy comment they say to you, like if you play Soraka Sona Morgana Janna Nami TaricLuluZyra as a male player, you'll get roasted but with women is somehow to be expected for them to play as. Only because these champions are rather "flimsy" and "cutesy".

Whereas playing Blitzcrank Thresh Braum TahmKench Bard Rakan Leona is treated as the MVP.

Its easy to mute someone in game but constantly reading different people's comment before you mute them is annoying. Not to mention when you're watching a stream and the streamer has a little roast comment about supports.

14 Comments

Sträw Hat2 votes

As an ADC main. I appreciate you, and always honor my support. Look at my last 2 games, did that happen because of me? Hell no. I have a support I love playing with, we have different supports for different ADCs, and with her, I always get fed. Don't let others judge what you play. She plays Leona/Rakan/Braum amazing btw. Forget the haters and come protect your ADC :)

P.S. Forgot to mention, support does more for a team then any other role. Hence why they don't split push, what's the use of a support that isn't supporting? None. The only reason the ADC can make half the flashy plays you see anywhere is cause the support set up the play or fed the ADC beforehand.

Sincerely: An ADC that appreciates supports.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

name checks out

FatedSaviour1 votes

you forgot to mention the entirety of season 7, cough cough item 3504

FatedSaviour2 votes

why i dont play support 1: if the adc screws up, its my fault somehow 2: i cant carry when my teams do feed, not if, when 3: unless im with a great godly adc (godly as in draven, twitch, trist and cuz i play rakan also xayah) they wont do any good

words from a was support main

DemainaNyx2 votes

The thing that most people forget about is that the supports are generally the reason the ADC gets a kill in the first place. Whether you slowly take their health down as an Enchanter or all in them as an engage tank, the supports are normally the ones who make the first move. Supports aren't CSing, so they can stand there and look for an opening to start a play. Plus, supports normally have the CC, so it's much easier to encourage someone to "go for a kill" if they see the enemy unable to attack.

Additionally, your list shows the difference between a reactive support and proactive support. A Blitzcrank landing a grab shows off more than a Soraka healing you during a fight. If Soraka was just spam healing you while you're at full health, that wouldn't benefit you so she has to wait till you take damage, hence reactive, while Blitz can be proactive and go for Q's that might or might not hit, cause it doesn't really hurt him either way. (Soraka has poke, which she should be using, but we'll ignore that and focus on their big abilities)

The skill involved in Morgana using her shield to stop CC is still skill, but it's reactive skill. If you just place your shield on your ADC when a Blitzcrank is walking at them, he'll just turn and fire at you. You have to wait for that skillshot to appear before using it, which makes you seem passive vs that Blitzcrank using W and flash to try and get a pick.

I had a game as Bard where I managed to catch a Darius mid ult with my ult and not clip my teammate, which let my teammate walk away with 5 bleed stacks and 500 hp. Had I been a Soraka, I probably could've used my ult and saved him just the same, but because there was those few seconds of Darius hanging in the air, golden in his ult animation, it was much more obvious who saved that teammate and the "skill" that went into aiming that skillshot so it only clipped Darius and not my teammate. If you asked me to do it again, I probably couldn't, but I looked like a god that game because of that. The very next Bard game I ulted to get the enemy team on Baron without hitting Baron so that it would reset or my jungler could walk in, smite it, and walk out. My Poppy Jungle used flash and Heroic Charge to gapclose, pushing the enemy jungler forward and out of my ult while trapping her in it, letting the enemy jungler smite it easier and escape with 100 hp. Guess who got blamed for that?

In both cases, I was being proactive with my Bard ults. One paid off big time and made me look great while the other failed due to someone else having a different plan. That's the difference in the two roles. The play makers either go big or fall flat, while enchanters tend to be in this middle ground, where they never really fail unless they just don't do something. No one will say, "Thresh, why didn't you Q, flash, throw lantern, and then Q back. We could've had that kill." But they will say, "Karma, why didn't you shield me from that ult?" or "Soraka, why didn't you heal me?" since it's much easier to critique reactive plays than proactive ones.

NiamhNyx1 votes

I am a male who uses Sona Lulu as my main.

Sadly it will never change, but supports are the true badasses. As we are the reason the carry can actually start to carry.

Just let them be oblivious, it would hurt their pride to much if they found out we are the true carries.

SomeStars1 votes

Taric taric is an MVP

and i wouldn't say anyone discriminates people based on gender/stereotypes-champion playstyle

the only stereotypes that i ever witness is the meta-slave/brain-dead enchanter players, but that is gonna be gone very soon because ardent nerfs have been out for awhile

and tanks are OP right now (especially ones who can snowball a lead with early game damage TahmKench Leona )so its easier for tank supports to carry

but really the only reason i commented is because only real men play taric kappa

NiamhNyx1 votes

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Taric taric is an MVP

and i wouldn't say anyone discriminates people based on gender/stereotypes-champion playstyle

the only stereotypes that i ever witness is the meta-slave/brain-dead enchanter players, but that is gonna be gone very soon because ardent nerfs have been out for awhile

and tanks are OP right now (especially ones who can snowball a lead with early game damage TahmKench Leona )so its easier for tank supports to carry

but really the only reason i commented is because only real men play taric kappa

People seem to group me in the brain dead enchanters alot because i main lulu and sona, and im just like "bitch please, Ive mained these two since season 2."

SomeStars1 votes

enchanters are much more difficult to play now and people don't understand how much enchanters impact a game because if theyre not dieing or if theyre chunking the junglers hp they think its all them and no bag of chips involved just there own pure skill (its not) and enchanters got a bad rep from the ardent incident

[katarina-love]

FatedSaviour1 votes

what an outrageous comment

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

tbh though its kinda in the job description to expect these things. usually they'd blame you for not having something warded. sometimes they're right, but others they're not. as a support main, I would say you get the short end of the straw when it comes to supporting the team, but id be wrong because that insinuates you got a straw in the first place.

your gonna meet some pretty salty ADC's but luckily that wont happen too often. most I meet don't say a thing .
adc throwing a baby rage? go help mid or secure some vision

also I'm a Nami main and have never heard these things. but the reason the ladder is much more appreciated isn't because the former are cutesy/flimsy, but because they are the flashy playmaker supports, so its much more apparent when they assist in a kill, whereas ones like lulu or sona stay in the mid/backline and let the tanks do their jobs. youd be surprised how many times a soraka ult goes through in a teamfight, but no one notices because theyre so focused on the fight the most you'll get usually is a "hehety" which is only 6 letters. when they will notice it is when they are in a heated 1v1, about to die, and like a heaven sent angel, your soraka decides to press R.

now you got someone like thresh or Leona, with those boss ass engages that are impossible to ignore making those LCS plays. anything that looks flashy is kinda the reason they stand out more

DemonBoneJangles1 votes

well to be honest supports have always been the bottom of the boot in leagues, we (supports) exist to get our adc (or respective lane partner) the kills they need to crush the enemy.... however this has led to the overinflated ego of the adc player who tink supports are not good at anything but healing, shielding, or generally being there to soak up damage for them. the comments and total disregard towards the support role is very unwarranted and in fact makes the role very hard to play unless you are playing with your duo or a team of friends. riot knows this and while they seem to want to fix this its rather hard to do so without making actual supports irrelevant and moving a second adc or mage like champions permanently on bottom lane.

the biggest drawback to this is the role system for champions EX (fighter, marksman, support, etc) ifchampions were classified by their actual role (for instance their subclass (diver, juggernaut) then riot would be able to make class items that function for a certain group of champions (much like melee only items)

XDaAdriX1 votes

A really good Nami or Zyra can change an entire teamfight. I know for me in lane i hate to lane agaianst a zyra having so much poke dmg without building AP lol. Nami wave and well aimed bubble can make a huge difference. I always tell my support gj or somthing if i notice they know what they are doing.

The list with Blitzcrank have more flashy abilities and can make plays as most of them are tanky and go in to make plays. excluding Sona who can make plays with her ult The list with Soraka are more sit back and heal you support except say Nami Zyra Morgana

But really all of that is irrelevant as it really comes down to who the person is who is playing as your ADC. There are asshole everywhere so you will run into people like that eventually.

I'm sure there are people who view supports as "the bitch" as you put it. But those people aren't worth your time. Try not to bother about them and have fun [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Taric is what? O_o

Honestly they're retarded if they think anyone should be the only audience to a character.

Same shxt like overwatch with mercy, people think only girls should play her even though she was (Idk about currently) one of the strongest busted must have supports in the game. People are absolutely retarded to complain about such trivial matters.

That being said if you play any champion in league I identify you as a flying apache helicopter spaghetti monster which isn't a good thing.

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