Give Garen spin a slow!
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id be content for now if they buffed its damage scaling.
also make the q animation speed scale up with his base attack speed, so its not the shittiest auto reset in the game at least at 20 min anymore.
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id be content for now if they buffed its damage scaling.
also make the q animation speed scale up with his base attack speed, so its not the shittiest auto reset in the game at least at 20 min anymore.
You could make his E change to where instead of gaining additional damage every 3 levels as he does now (Alongside leveling up the skill itself of course), he now spins faster or slower according to his Attack Speed. Just a random and completely silly idea. Considering it already has the interactions with Crit that it does and the attack speed that some of those items grant (And how he is the only Juggernaut that I can think of off the top of my head that actually HAS interactions with Crit) it could work.
As for the Q, I can fully get behind that one. It's stupid as crap that I'm in the middle of the animation, and a Teemo or a Quinn with their Blind or those that have a Disarming CC can use said powers to completely negate the attack just because I'm in the middle of the attack animation.
You could make his E change to where instead of gaining additional damage every 3 levels as he does now (Alongside leveling up the skill itself of course), he now spins faster or slower according to his Attack Speed. Just a random and completely silly idea. Considering it already has the interactions with Crit that it does and the attack speed that some of those items grant (And how he is the only Juggernaut that I can think of off the top of my head that actually HAS interactions with Crit) it could work.
As for the Q, I can fully get behind that one. It's stupid as crap that I'm in the middle of the animation, and a Teemo or a Quinn with their Blind or those that have a Disarming CC can use said powers to completely negate the attack just because I'm in the middle of the attack animation.
i made a thread like this like half a year ago.
wanted them to add an attack speed scaling to his spin, that adds spins for building bonus attack speed.
however, just as an additional scaling. because otherwise youd be forced to build attack speed on him to make the spin useful. the goal with the additional scaling would just be to bring attack speed items up to the same gold efficiency on garen as flat ad items.
this would allow him to build
and get the same damage increase as from a 
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i made a thread like this like half a year ago.
wanted them to add an attack speed scaling to his spin, that adds spins for building bonus attack speed.
however, just as an additional scaling. because otherwise youd be forced to build attack speed on him to make the spin useful. the goal with the additional scaling would just be to bring attack speed items up to the same gold efficiency on garen as flat ad items.
Yeah, and I probably saw and commented on it. Oh well, you forget things over time.

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mah man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8af26_M07c
made me remember this ap garen gem
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8af26_M07c
made me remember this ap garen gem
i mean. could be fun to do in a normal. with glacial augment youd get the increased burn on liandries too.
plus, they buffed the item, so it might be pretty dumb.
Um what? No way. He already has a silence and a half hp execute with a ms steroid.
Yep his Spin is AOE stacks BC and hits what 9 times maybe more and had built in Armor Pen if you are hit 4 times.
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W is a set flat number of hits (12 times at 33% damage so that's 4 normal hits really), singe target and slows him by -125 movement speed (thats about -30% movement speed with boots)
You are supposed to be able to walk away from Garen while he spins not sticking into him.
Otherwise gameplay goes out of the window.
And that... would be villany.
That sounds like a good way to break him.
Make Garen's Ult A Stun
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GREAT IDEA! Let's also give his passive a 100% max health regen every second.