Im just so tilted and sad, it just seems like i can never carry. Advice please?

it be lìke that··1 votes·616 views

Probably going to fail my second promotion in a row despite a 7-1-5 start on Zac.

There is nothing more frustrating than being 3k gold up on ANYONE on the other team, but your team doesn't listen and does not coordinate.

My pings? ignored. my "stop pouring all your damage into the nasus who is mid fucking ult" ignored.

My tilt? Endless.

I will probably receive another lengthy chat restriction because curse words + caps = worse than throwing the game by being 2-10 and diving as a glass cannon carry.

lol "give more kills to the carry" 2 of my kills early were solo kills onto enemy lee sin, the other 5 were jumps/ults when my laner couldnt get the kill for themselves.

I feel like i cant do any better than that. 7-1-5 at 15 minutes ish, should be enough to carry a game and sometimes it just isnt.

I dont know what else i can do, better. look at the stats for my last game and know everything was all them from 22 min+

Please god just any advice to carry this riff raft.

EDIT: seeing that we were 8.3k gold up and just threw so hard honestly just makes me wanna quit forever.

7 Comments

DeltaRaven1 votes

So I took a look at the game from the final screen and feel like I may know why you lost. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Nasus had a ZZrot portal and was probably constantly keeping waves and pressure on different sides of the map.

I'm going to give you some advice, I checked the rank and it said you were Silver 5 and a Jungle main. Nothing wrong with being silver, and if you are a Jungle Main that's GOOD, you have the power to dictate the pace of the game, and I've got some advice on how you can do that.

The way that things work this season is that everything is always on a knife's edge, 1 bad fight even when ahead can mean a lost game. And games in Bronze-Plat are a constant clown fiesta. So here's my advice, tell your team in champ select you need at least 1 champ with Waveclear, (Viktor, sivir, etc.) if they don't listen then it doesn't matter, because you are going to focus on yourself and how YOU can win the game. My best experiences are with champions who are great deulists like Jax, Volibear, or Hecarim. Now know something, you decide how you want to jungle or lane, don't let your team berate you for choosing to not do something that could cost you.

Ok, now here's the secret to dominating the game, it's Pressure. If you have a lead, you push that lead (calculated pushing, not blind over aggression). Get green smite or sightstone and light up the enemy's side of the map if you are able, you always want to know where people are. Now look for any opportunity to take a tower from the start of the game, if you kill a laner and they don't have tp, you smack their tower, proxy farm if it's safe or you have backup to fight between turrets, and repeat gank/roam later to take it if you need it. Everyone asks what the best champs to carry are, I firmly believe that the best champions are ones who can take towers quickly and fight in a 1v1 scenario.

A great way to influence pressure is Wave management, which is basically keeping waves off your turrets and pressing them onto the enemy's side of the map. It's like a safety net, that way if you do lose a fight you minimize the amount of resources that can be taken from you. Wave management deny's rotations, let me give you an example: Your team loses 2 people mid lane and someone has to base, and you have resourses to defend mid lane but a wave is crashing into the top lane so the opponents grab that turret instead, that's 800 global gold that could have been prevented if the wave had just been pushed out and your team would have had time to regroup. It's such a small technique that people just never seem to utilize. Even as a jungler, do not be afraid to move into a lane and push a wave into turret if the enemy is gone. You want those turrets to go down so you can open up the map, and if you want to push even harder get a item 3512 . That item makes it so you always have a lane pushing and putting it behind a tower being sieged on slows the enemy drastically, it's so fucking good.

Now this last part isn't hard to do but it's all on you, make good decisions and just look at the map every now and then. Recognize where you get the opportunity to push waves, deny experience, or counter jungle. Try to always know here the enemy jungler is, I personally love smiting their wolves if I can safely do so to see if they come into their portion of the jungle. If they aren't near I try to sweep dragon and solo it if I can. Really what i'm trying to say is focus on how you can build your own lead over your counterpart; if you farm correctly as a jungler you can be level 6 less than 7 minutes into the game. That's a huge powerspike considering i've seen junglers hit level 6 at more than 9-10 minutes into the game.

This is just some advice I threw together for you on how you can look to improve your own play, just focus on improving yourself, play the map, and take time to untilt if you have a bad game, because every game you go into is a different one. One more thing, if you take an inhib and have outer turrets left to take, don't just "Run it down mid" that is the dumbest thing you can do and I see people even in Diamond do it (I am part of a league club in college and even this one guy in challenger does it all the time and it tilts me watching). Look to group and take turrets or bait fights around baron/dragon especially if the enemy lets super minions onto the nexus turrets. If you have any more questions or concerns I'll try to answer as best as I can, because i'm really trying to help.

it be lìke that2 votes

a lot of this makes sense and a good chunk i try to do, but the other half requires coordination with the team, somehow by a miracle my last team was actually cooperative ending my 4 loss streak.

I can surely do a bit more, but i cant make teammates make correct decisions.

ask nicely, no response, rage get called toxic.

I like to play jungle supports and set up fights and dictate when we go in, zac is just such a game changing pick because of the massive cc potential onto any carry without a lightning fast escape like lucian e.

DeltaRaven1 votes

I agree he has really good cc, and he is a good champion but maybe try to learn a few hard carry options because supportive junglers aren't the best at hard carrying games unless the enemy team gets so far behind your team that you can just initiate picks all the time. Usually I go into a game asking myself, "if i have to 1v9 this how will I do it?" So it's just that you need to consider learning a champion that has great damage game round and can carry games through pressure if your team falls behind.

hsumis1ove1 votes

you are playing the wrong champs. Unless you go full ap assassin zac, you are pretty much a support. You need to either duo with a good carry, or play the carries. People like yi, irelia, vayne, kat, zed, graves, jax, udyr, even lucian can carry very well as they have high damage and can 1v1 most people. Yi, irelia, jax, udyr, and zed can splitpush very well, which is really good in low elo. Vayne, and lucian can carry teamfights pretty well and can self peel. I used irelia to get from b4 to b1 (you can make insane lvl 3 1v2 out plays, resultin gin a double kill). Yi is really strong, just time your alpha strikes to dodge key abilities and you can easily pentakill. I once played 3 full crit yi games in a row and got a pentakill in each one. Jax is pretty easy to pick up. He takes little skill, and he has lots of damage while still getting pretty tanky with his ult passive and e, Udyr can be insane if you know how to open up d gates. He can push down a tower and easily escape with his movment speed steroid. His movment speed steroid also allows him to easliy catch up to the enemy carries in fights. Zed and kat can easily snowball and roam to kill everyone and carry.

Just remember, you want to take the kills as most of these champions.

it be lìke that2 votes

i cant duo because none of my friends play really (who are any decent) and i play the champs im most comfortable on, im pretty decent at setting up ganks and making something out of nothing with Zac, thats why i love to play him.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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you are playing the wrong champs. this kind of thinking needs to stop.

its like person carrying himself to silver with MasterYi when he belongs in bronze 3. just becuase no one has the skill or teamwork to stop Yi until silver.

hell i could probably reach plat if i played different EASIER champs. but i highly doubt i am anywhere near plat worthy

the reason i am in silver is the fact i DON'T play champs that can carry.

i guess its kind of my own fault in a way. i EASILY have the SKILL of a gold or even plat. i just don't have the PHYSICAL ability

and i literally mean PHYSICAL. the biggest thing holding me back outside of bad playing on my team feeding is he fact that i CAN'T type very well and i FREQUENTLY just press the wrong buttons. and the fact that i CAN'T reliably click a target fast enough with proper accuracy.and i CAN'T follow a teamfight very well if player get too far split apart.

my knowledge of my champ.. my counters the enemy champs.. counterpicking, item builds, adapting, who to ban, who goes good with who, all of that.. i do at EASILY a gold level.. its the fact that i cant press the right keys and i can't click the thing i try to that im stuck in silver.

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