PSA play whatever the hell you want in normals. as long as you try to win, im cool with it.

it be lìke that·Sep 18, 2016·179 votes·5,553 views

I normally don't stray too far from the meta, (never do in ranked) but i'll be damned if some people are going to dictate what anyone wants to play in NORMALS you know that casual mode where you do fun stuff?

I'd never take ap mid ezreal into ranked, or hybrid varus mid, but damn if they aren't fun to play.

you can bard jungle for all i care as long as you try to win and make some sweet plays.

I actually see potential in hybrid varus mid, i was outtrading a leblanc early and at six even, i almost solo kiled her but got ganked (rip) it was incredibly fun though and great to unwind after bad ranked games.

Play whatever the hell you want in normals and have fun doing it.

168 Comments

MarshbouySep 18, 201636 votes

I'm fine with off meta. I'm not fine with "off meta's" who start intent feeding because they died twice as soraka jungle.

it be lìke thatSep 18, 201621 votes

i soraka jungled once because my team were a trio of trolls and i wanted them to dodge, but sure enough they didnt.

i went 2/2/12 and solo killed a shaco invading me. fun time.

crippler38Sep 19, 20163 votes

... how did you kill a shaco....

he has ignite and is an assassin.... wut

I Like TeemoSep 19, 20162 votes

im gonna go with he was lagging... had flash smite or something stupid.. and had no mana

MhihnjSep 19, 20168 votes

1 word: BANANA

crippler38Sep 19, 20162 votes

I'm going with chased him and got kited to hell and back because unless you delete soraka there's no catching her as a melee.

but tbh soraka has literally ONE ability that works on camps right? her clear must be garbage.

by garbage I mean you could clear krugs red and raptors before she even finished red

Battlecast SonaSep 19, 20161 votes

honestly if you don't panic when Shaco invades you almost anyone can kill him. Level 2 Shaco is actually not really that scary, I feel like most people just die to having a lower health total than him... He probably overestimated his ability to kill the Raka and overcommitted to the duel.

crippler38Sep 20, 20161 votes

it's more of the fact that you're low from the buff, ignite hits you, the box hits you, and shaco hits you.

but that's why nobody invades with shaco level 2 once you get at a certain point because it's far easier to just gank middle lane.

Battlecast SonaSep 20, 20161 votes

yeah, but if you save smite (because it's Shaco) and smite the box you can, most of the time, survive the gank unless you were already very low. Also if Shaco takes his skills incorrectly which I see sometimes too, but more commonly I survive Shaco invades by smiting a box or just by taking an alternate route.

I definitely think that ganking a lane level 2 is safer though...

crippler38Sep 20, 20161 votes

yeah but if you smite the box shaco can smite the buff which is bad, also here's a tip if you play shaco

place 2 boxes at the krugs or gromp and then 2 at the buff you want (not in range to leash it) then get a leash at gromp or krugs, then use your e to yank the buff to the boxes and clear it from there. Then go for wolves or chickens based on where you started then gank (I prefer to start from red with this, this gives me not only level 3 but 2 sources of slow and the lane is still pretty much level 2 so it's an instant flash.

Battlecast SonaSep 20, 20161 votes

in a scenario where shaco is level 2 invading you, you have 2 choices: take shaco's life or take the buff. Taking shaco's life is better 100% of the time because you get the buff if he steals it, too... so I'd rather smite the box. Especially because the same holds true the other way - if I smite my buff and get it who cares if Shaco then just turns around and kills me, I'm still screwed either way so may as well increase my chances of surviving.

crippler38Sep 20, 20161 votes

the problem is you shouldn't be able to take shaco's life if you don't smite red because that's giving him an extra 300 hp to deal with and most likely the buff itself. Or if he just leaves at that point you just wasted smite on a box and have to leave and he doesn't.

You see why nobody invades though, it's too risky when your character has a history of doing it level 2.

Tobias BracknerSep 18, 20166 votes

Honestly I'd even extend this to Ranked.

Played with an AD Leblanc toplane and we won.

People gotta play what they are comfortable with and they will perform a lot better.

it be lìke thatSep 18, 20166 votes

idk how i feel about the ad leblanc. but i surely wouldnt extend this to ranked unless its an actual niche. like renekton jungle.

if someone tries to play ap darius id be semi annoyed.

Tobias BracknerSep 19, 20161 votes

Well everyone scales off of AD.

Only select champions scale off of AP

So AD Leblanc did good dmg and had cc and maneuverability for fights and she used her escapes to splitpush like crazy while the rest of us won skirmishes

5000000000000000Sep 19, 20161 votes

So you basically build her like an ADC with Statikk and/or Runaan's for pushing power?

Tobias BracknerSep 21, 20161 votes

Depends on the situation. Pure AS from Phantom Dancer is plenty of pushing to allow lanes to snowball while also giving more power in duels and skirmishes.

tho tbh I don't remember her build

PoskeSep 19, 20163 votes

Toplane ad le blanc is more viable then garen top in high elo

Tobias BracknerSep 21, 20161 votes

I don't see why it wouldn't be an actual niche.

Also AP Darius doesn't make any sense so I don't see why anyone would do it.

it be lìke thatSep 21, 20161 votes

clearly you have never seen an ap riven either.

Tobias BracknerSep 21, 20161 votes

What's the problem? Those people are clearly and inarguably trolling and should be reported for doing so.

You can't stop people from trolling, you just gotta report them so they'll be removed from the system or correct their actions.

Great MutaSep 19, 20161 votes

I played a Tristana Jg and an ADC Thresh today who I'm sure would love to queue with you. I think you should show some extra confidence by waiting for a promo game to have them play with you.

Tobias BracknerSep 21, 20161 votes

Sure.

If my team feels confident with their champs then that's all you need to win.

Unstoppable MonkSep 18, 20165 votes

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I'd never take ap mid ezreal into ranked

If you're not really that knowledgeable, please don't imply completely fine picks as some sort of offmeta. AP Ezreal is a legitimate AP hard carry.

it be lìke thatSep 18, 201630 votes

ap ezreal is a fine pick, but it is entirely off meta.

i dont see your issue. that doesnt mean it isnt strong if you know it well?

I also said that I personally would not take it into ranked, never said anything about others!

HayRossSep 19, 20165 votes

I'm comfortable enough playing Taric top to take him into a ranked game

I Like TeemoSep 19, 20161 votes

see if u did that i would dodge the q like thats not acceptable... its kinda like sona jungle... that justifies an instant dodge

CeexSettSep 19, 20163 votes

First you should lolskill/op.gg the player. if he shows he can play that champion in the role, it is legitimate. if it is his first time/he has a bad winrate then dodge.

HayRossSep 19, 20162 votes

I used to play Taric top because it was jokey, but I did it so many fucking times that I ended up with level 6 mastery and a solid chance at first blood. (Remember, Taric's main strength top lane is that most people you face think it's an easy win and do REALLY fucking stupid things, which you use to your advantage)

Chocobo KnightSep 19, 20163 votes

Hey! I do that with with movement speed Janna top. It's so much fun to watch them accidentally take tower shots to try and trade with you. If you have your jungler come up, it's almost like printing money.

HayRossSep 20, 20161 votes

Tell me more about this cheese-tastic build

Chocobo KnightSep 20, 20162 votes

I tend to start with item 1001 item 1006 and a item 2003 . Afterwards I'm building towards item 3512 item 3009 item 3504 item 3742 item 3100 item 3285 . One of the champs I tend to have the most success fighting is yasuo. i also take summoner 3 summoner 4 for my summoners along with a movement speed/full ap runepage.