Why did they keep buffing sylas's heal?

Dewott610·Mar 12, 2019·13 votes·7,118 views

It's already annoying enough to deal with in lane making it impossible to trade well with him, he was in an ok spot except for the heal before, and what does riot do? buff the most bs part of him, TWICE.

11 Comments

hrooza dota Mar 12, 20195 votes

they nerfed the base damage in exchange to ap ratio because tank Sylas item 3025 item 3065 were better.

right now to get the same healing as before you will need 300 ap which is a lot and normally only happen on the end of mid game/late game

mack9112Mar 12, 20195 votes

They nerfed it

YagoMar 12, 20196 votes

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They nerfed it

No, not really. It went from 50/80/110/140/170 to 60/80/100/120/140, but the ratio went up by 10%.

It's not that hard to have around 75 AP by level 7 which means the total healing lost from the change is more like 12.5 than 20, and at level 9 you can pretty easily have around 125 AP which gives you an actual loss of 17.5 healing instead of 30.

Is that a nerf?

Sure. But it's very minor. And if he gets an Infernal Dragon, starts Dark Seal and gets a couple of takedowns, otherwise has a lead, or the game goes past two items? It's a massive buff.

AirKingNeoMar 12, 20191 votes

that's a nerf because sylas's best performing builds are tank/bruiser

DurzakaMar 13, 20191 votes

Pretty significant nerf for bruiser Sylas, AND still a nerf early for AP Sylas.

Sounds like a good change to me.

SiG DxDMar 13, 20192 votes

so ppl buy him more and yeah ,absurd heal

ShonjlMar 12, 20191 votes

Riot is stupid is why. Champ is fine other than his busted heal.

This is the same company that made the failure that is reworked Kayle. No lane presence, like not weak early game, legit no early game, but is too godly lategame. She honestly makes Vayne look tame which is a joke, she already needs a rework or her numbers at least massively changed.

RagnaveilMar 12, 20191 votes

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It's already annoying enough to deal with in lane making it impossible to trade well with him, he was in an ok spot except for the heal before, and what does riot do? buff the most bs part of him, TWICE.

Idk, something that starts with AP Bruiser and ends with Itemization doesn't exist right now, hence why his kit has all that stuff. Not to mention he's reliant on his team to do anything. All 4 of his teammates fall very behind? He cant do much.

Solidair3Mar 12, 20191 votes

They're nerfing it soon, it seems. 17% bonus instead of 200% when he's below the threshold for the bonus.

Totally Worth ItMar 12, 20191 votes

Riot nerfed the base values and buffed the ratios. I agree that the heal still feels a little bullshit but I think it's not fair that when both targets are low Sylas wins every time thanks to it. I think it would be more fair if it's either one or the other. Either use it as a clutch tool to help Sylas squeeze out a cheek-clenching 1 v 1 or make it an execute based on missing HP. Letting it be both makes it a situation where Sylas has his cake and eats it too.

hiyaresMar 13, 20191 votes

they are not going to nerf his ability to fight too much and those of you saying its a massive nerf it really isnt. realistically speaking in a soloque environment he is a safe pick into pretty much anything with how his trading works. he can setup for ganks pretty easily he has both a heal and shield making trades with him at almost anytime either or both skill is up useless and lost everytime. But in the pro scene hes considered a risky pick because all they do is well if im going to pick a tam with decent ults ban sylas or well lets get a team with really crap ults but are decent overall so sylas cant abuse them every 15 to 16 seconds because he needs to steal everyones ults in a a fight to be viable. It is honestly just another case of champ is garbage in pro play op in soloq gotta buff his ap so h wont just go tank

W - Kingslayer HEAL 50/80/110/140/170 (+0.35 ability power) ⇒ 60/80/100/120/140 (+0.45 ability power) DAMAGE RATIO 0.55 ability power ⇒ 0.65 ability power

ohhh no its not lik ewe havent seen hybrid ap tanks before............. item 3152 item 3027 item 3116 item 3001 item 3157