As much as I hate lulu. She Literaly has negative base stats

Poske··22 votes·9,810 views

JUST CHANGE HER FKING POLYMORPH ALREADY so that she can have normal base stats

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jocomotion19 votes

Literally had an ally Lulu say this once in All chat

Lulu: if you sneeze on me, I’ll explode.

I never laughed so hard at a Lulu before.

Aseraan2 votes

Do we have a champ that actualy sneezes?

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I want to say jihn's joke, but I think it's just loosing his grip on the gun.

floo1 votes

Ornn at least spits when he's laughing

Marshbouy9 votes

Oh no, god no. I main Lulu and playing around her low stats is super easy (chrysalis, defensive boots, and item 3105 is usually enough to make her borderline tanky). Do not change her polymorph, it's the only reason why she's picked most of the time.

Sp33d Zer02 votes

If your champion only get picked for a single reason, they need a rework so that they can be more versatile

Rhai2 votes

This is how Akali and Irelia happened. Having a pick be niche or gets picked for just a specific reason is not a bad thing.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

There's a difference between a single reason being a spell, and a single reason being a play style.

Marshbouy1 votes

What I mean is that she is differentiated from other enchanter supports because of her polymorph. No one sits down and says "I am going to pick lulu because her polymorph is so goddamn OP that the rest of her spells are negligible." They say "I am going to pick Lulu over Nami, Soraka, Janna, etc. because of the guaranteed CC her polymorph grants"

I should have been more specific in my comment.

LightIsMyPath2 votes

Lulu actually is a good pick all-around (atk speed buff, shield with damage amp, slow, good early damage, anti-engage ulti which buffs your hp).. But if they removed poly she would be competing with Janna who does the same things ..

420 grams8 votes

What stat is negative???

Sp33d Zer02 votes

Enemy enjoyment

Death by Glamour8 votes

which enchanter doesn't have negative stats?

D357R0Y3R1 votes

Janna had one of the best base stats in the game for a ranged champion

before riot made a streak of base stats nerf on her after her mini-rework

Slythion5 votes

She literally has negative base stats?

Profirix2 votes

Obvious hyperbole, although 'literally' makes it a fallacy but he/she isn't wrong about Lulu's base stats being absolutely horrendous. One of the easiest supports to kill next to Sona.

Smartness Immune1 votes

Found that the hard way, when i got hooked level 2 by a Thresh . Fun times, i must say.

Mordepool3 votes

Laughs in Mordekaiser Hue Hue Hue.

LightIsMyPath2 votes

But..but.. Squirrels, cupcakes, bats, little drakes and little snowmans are cute q_q and what about the ball-fish?

CrestfallenNight2 votes

STOP being a crybaby. Lulu's polymorph is her signature ability. Learn to take a damn cleanse or item 3111.

Poske2 votes

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STOP being a crybaby. Lulu's polymorph is her signature ability. Learn to take a damn cleanse or item 3111.

Signature thing about lulu is options

She can cast W,E,R on both allies and enemies Also there is A Q which is sort of double line attack

Bassicly everything double is lulu signature thing,

She needs some adjustments, here are some examples

**Pixie is to close to lulu making Q trajectory a nuisance ** Change that, change how pixie follows Her E to often values shield over damage nuke (damage nuke is also boring) Her W to often values polymorph over speed boost and shouldnt be point and click Her R is fine sort of, the slow on it is not needed, Increasing hitbox is also not needed (power can be transfered somewhere else)

Lulu is champion with many choises that is her signature thingy

CrestfallenNight1 votes

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Signature thing about lulu is options

She can cast W,E,R on both allies and enemies Also there is A Q which is sort of double line attack

Bassicly everything double is lulu signature thing,

She needs some adjustments, here are some examples

**Pixie is to close to lulu making Q trajectory a nuisance ** Change that, change how pixie follows Her E to often values shield over damage nuke (damage nuke is also boring) Her W to often values polymorph over speed boost and shouldnt be point and click Her R is fine sort of, the slow on it is not needed, Increasing hitbox is also not needed (power can be transfered somewhere else)

Lulu is champion with many choises that is her signature thingy

Her signature is her polymorph. The OP literally only refers that about her kit. ? R cannot be cast on enemies. I don't know what you mean. Her E is useful on enemies? yeah, for like, the 3 initial levels because her damage becomes 0 if she builds traditionally. (Like I do, since im not a noob who needs to bring Ignite :D) Btw, it's Pix. Her ult is FINE. It's fair.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

im kinda confused. explain plz. bronze brains.

ankoanko192 votes

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im kinda confused. explain plz. bronze brains.

She has very low AD and health. They could buff those base stats by compensate nerfing polymorph.

2Charmnot2Charm11 votes

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She has very low AD and health. They could buff those base stats by compensate nerfing polymorph.

Pretty sure the AD is low cause of her passive.

Poske2 votes

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Pretty sure the AD is low cause of her passive.

Screams in Orianna

FOR JUSTICE7 votes

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She has very low AD and health. They could buff those base stats by compensate nerfing polymorph.

as if they would actually care about enchanters.

they nerfed the last good one in favor of, guess what, another aggressive playstyle [sg-miss-fortune]

Aseraan3 votes

Well trow a rock at me but when i have horid nightmares i wake up and realise i played during ardent meta Than go back to sleep like a baby demon.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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Well trow a rock at me but when i have horid nightmares i wake up and realise i played during ardent meta Than go back to sleep like a baby demon.

NO i just mean riot isnt prolly gonna buff any back up for a while BECAUSE of the ardent meta. was more of a joke tbh. still im sure one or two enchanters being meta wouldnt hurt anyone

Aseraan2 votes

Problem is they would be meta too if the damage wasnt soo much fking high where even a lulu cant save you whit all her peel shield and ult.......

Second problem is when enchanters where meta its wasnt they were soo good what they were doing BUT how every effing item and mastery where so overtuned on them JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PPL PLAYING THEM AT ALL.

Cuz lets be honest where leage is heading now healers like sorka have no place in.....or in general shield spaming microbots. Enchanters need to be revisualised as a whole or be removed.

I hate this meta too where we die from everything and all but i would not go back where i was stuck whit ardent users and pretty much made pointless picking any diver/assasin/poke champ.

Marshbouy1 votes

Due to her saftey, passive, shield, and polymorph, she has low stats. It's not much different than any other enchanter though, since all of them have somewhat similar kits and are all extremely squishy. I'd argue that out of all of them Lulu is the best off because of her ult giving her a lot of situational tankiness past level 6.

Need Gold 4 Tent2 votes

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Due to her saftey, passive, shield, and polymorph, she has low stats. It's not much different than any other enchanter though, since all of them have somewhat similar kits and are all extremely squishy. I'd argue that out of all of them Lulu is the best off because of her ult giving her a lot of situational tankiness past level 6.

[sg-soraka]

I don't feel at all safe

GreenKnight1 votes

So who has lowest base stats now? Lulu, Sona?

Marshbouy1 votes

They're almost identical, with a very slight tilt towards Lulu.

AmWhaleIRL1 votes

I agree she could use some love, I also agree on the HATE aspect, I deplore this Champion. But with Pre-Season changes coming I wouldn't expect any changes. Even just things like new Shield-Bash rune are going to help her.

Śhunpo1 votes

Make Polymorph a skillshot, make Q not lock on when she targets you with E and nerf her ult. Then we can talk about buffing her base stats.

LightIsMyPath1 votes

Q doesn't lock in lol. You can still dodge it if you move in a direction away from her indicator

CrestfallenNight1 votes

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Make Polymorph a skillshot, make Q not lock in when she targets you with E and nerf her ult. Then we can talk about buffing her base stats.

? Im a Lulu main, and sure, so the crying stops I can agree making polymorph a skill shot. But what are you even saying on the Q? LMFAO. If I E an enemy pix remains on him, but I still have to aim MY <<read this Q for it to it. Pix will stay in the enemy and he will cast the Q with me FROM you. Meaning that if Lulu herself doesn't hit you, Pix will literally fire a bolt FROM you. So, you won't get it. Nerf her ult? jesus christ lmao, elaborate? xd

Śhunpo1 votes

Yeah, I suppose that's just a personal gripe I have with her E->Q, since I personally dislike how she's so overloaded (it almost feels like E by itself could just be used as a general poke tool alone), but true, you've got me there.

As for nerfing her ult, I'm talking a tone down on the base HP it grants and an increase on the AP scaling (both should be small adjustments) so that Lulu has to commit to a squishier build if she wants to offer more tankiness for another target. I say this because currently she just go the Spellthief upgrade and Ardent, possibly Athene's, and that's all the AP she gets, and yet still her ult grants 700+ HP on a lot of occasions. She then grabs items such as Locket and Redemption which make HER an even harder target to kill. That's where I think enchanters in general are flawed, they itemise defensively after 1-2 AP items and turn into pseudo-tanky irritations. If they had to sacrifice more self-tankiness in exchange for being more effective at making others empowered I would have less issues with them.

CrestfallenNight1 votes

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Yeah, I suppose that's just a personal gripe I have with her E->Q, since I personally dislike how she's so overloaded (it almost feels like E by itself could just be used as a general poke tool alone), but true, you've got me there.

As for nerfing her ult, I'm talking a tone down on the base HP it grants and an increase on the AP scaling (both should be small adjustments) so that Lulu has to commit to a squishier build if she wants to offer more tankiness for another target. I say this because currently she just go the Spellthief upgrade and Ardent, possibly Athene's, and that's all the AP she gets, and yet still her ult grants 700+ HP on a lot of occasions. She then grabs items such as Locket and Redemption which make HER an even harder target to kill. That's where I think enchanters in general are flawed, they itemise defensively after 1-2 AP items and turn into pseudo-tanky irritations. If they had to sacrifice more self-tankiness in exchange for being more effective at making others empowered I would have less issues with them.

When you can literally supress the enemy support with a non-enchanter and blow a squishy enchanter in seconds? Hmmmm As im typing im gonna see your OP.GG to see if there's something fishy here... Yeah. It seems you main Katarina. Now I understand where all of this comes from lol... Tip you prolly know: don't ult near a Lulu lol

Śhunpo1 votes

Uhhhh ult is the least of my worries tbh. Kat's ult is kinda bad now.

But yes, Katarina hates Lulu's guts, can't deny that xD You got me.

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