How come older builds that worked back in season 2-3ish don't work now?

MrNuclearPumpkin··3 votes·632 views

I remember there used to be so many weird builds that actually worked, due to the way things were. ADC Leblanc. ADC Orianna. ADC Annie. And these weren't even troll picks. They legitimately worked. Then you had things like AP Tristana mid, AP Miss Fortune. And a few other things I don't really remember.

I'm just curious. How come these builds don't work as well as they used to anymore? Trist still has AP scaling. As does Miss Fortune. So like, how come they won't work anymore? :o

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Mimy3 votes

I did adc annie once.. in season 4 or 5.. I went 6/0

It was glorious...

1wolfpack1 votes

that sounds AWESOME

Mimy1 votes

It was a long time ago and it was a sone time thing..

I had my fair share of off-meta

but those days are pretty far gone till I find something really fun.

1wolfpack2 votes

they dont work for you maybe, step your old school off meta pick game up brahhh

Mimy1 votes

Really hard to pull off... REALLY REALLY HARD!

1wolfpack1 votes

agreed I was joking earlier, but clearly these boards will have non of that.

DrCyanide2 votes

Items, masteries, and champions all change.

DFG helped a lot of not-meta AP picks get the damage they needed, and that's been gone for a while. My AP Ezreal build is a lot weaker than it use to be because of the removal of the AP from Sheen and the removal of the 15% AP on Auto Attacks Mastery.

MF and Trist both had their AP scalings hit in the Marksman update, exchanging it for things they could use as an AD champion. There was a big stink about it then.

Because of the improvements to the abilities of Marksmen to better synergize with attack speed or AD, anything that's not natively a Marksman will fall behind. That's why there ADC Mages fell out.

MrNuclearPumpkin1 votes

{quoted}

Items, masteries, and champions all change.

DFG helped a lot of not-meta AP picks get the damage they needed, and that's been gone for a while. My AP Ezreal build is a lot weaker than it use to be because of the removal of the AP from Sheen and the removal of the 15% AP on Auto Attacks Mastery.

MF and Trist both had their AP scalings hit in the Marksman update, exchanging it for things they could use as an AD champion. There was a big stink about it then.

Because of the improvements to the abilities of Marksmen to better synergize with attack speed or AD, anything that's not natively a Marksman will fall behind. That's why there ADC Mages fell out.

So, do you think DFG needs to return for more off-meta AP picks? :O

Revali1 votes

they got reworked, outclassed, or items got tuned less n less to be universal and better on specific champs.

Xrusa1 votes

Scalings changed, items changed, new champs were introduced, base attack speed and other stat changes, etc.

Xrusa1 votes

Also a reduced ability to win without team-play (as often), so stuff that was meant to wreck lane and carry doesn't work as well anymore.

& On the point of AP Trist specifically, E damage changed to physical instead of the old magic damage, so you can't properly build penetration.

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