I'm thoroughly confused with all the Cait hate

vOmvbrawfU·Jan 5, 2017·2 votes·819 views

Not that she isn't a tad too strong at the moment, but the constant spam of hate on her when someone like Twitch has a higher winrate, despite people that play him being less than half as experienced on him. Or Varus, who has a slightly lower winrate despite people that play him having significantly less experience as well.

Just remove the headshot from her E, remove hurricane stacking her passive (even if you have to drop it down to 5 hits), and make her Q not so shitty. Then she loses some mid game power and gains some early game, since she is supposed to be an early game champ. Problem solved.

And by the way, you nerf Cait and you automatically buff Vayne. So there's always that.

32 Comments

S0kaXJan 5, 20172 votes

High range poke and traps, do I need to say anything else?

venomous frostJan 5, 20172 votes

yes, I would like some more information please

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

As would I. Nid has high range poke and traps too. Is he saying Nid is OP lol?

venomous frostJan 5, 20171 votes

item 3070 Nidalee

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

Her traps don't root people

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

So did you mean to say roots or traps that root? I'm confused, because you said traps but now you're talking about roots.

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

I'm talking about cc, nida traps only deal damage, cait's traps apply cc

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

Then why didn't you say that?

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

Because the cc is called root

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

But you said "trap". A lot of champs have CC.

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

I don't even understand what the hell are you saying but w/e

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

Ok then Her passive is bullshit. She gains crit hits for no reason and see W for more Her Q has synergy with W She can put traps under tower so you cannot see them, she can put traps under you, her traps last too long. WTF I'd rather be hit by Teemo Shroom instead of this stupid trap, with Teemo Shroom at least I can escape alive, but the moment I touch this trap and Cait is there you can count on me as dead, unless there is a healer nearby, TahmKench , Kayle or Kindred . Her E has synergy with Q and also deals damage for no reason other than to be even more annoying Her R deals 200% AD, why? Edit: She has really big Attack Range

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

I mean, you just explained her kit lol.

Is your argument for why she is "OP" really that "her kit has synergy in it"? lul.

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

Then what is your argument for her not being OP

RivuoJan 5, 20171 votes

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Then what is your argument for her not being OP

You also gave false information, her passive isnt ''free crits''

Its An auto attack enhancer that can crit if you build crit. Not a free crit.

''Her R deals 200% AD, why ''

Implying caitlyn builds AD.. She has 160 AD by the mid game ...

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

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Implying caitlyn builds AD.. She has 160 AD by the mid game ...

Heard of early game?

RivuoJan 5, 20171 votes

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Heard of early game?

Early game you have an IE... 200% of 70 is 140..... if 140 is why you're complaining go see twitch

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

So Caitlyn doesn't buy damage early, good to know.

RivuoJan 5, 20171 votes

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So Caitlyn doesn't buy damage early, good to know.

She doesnt.

S0kaXJan 5, 20171 votes

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/307/189/6fe.jpg Ha, nice joke you got there.

Big LincolnJan 5, 20172 votes

because her damage is broken for how much range she has. Her passive is unjustifiably too good; it scales with crit chance, attack damage, and crit damage, AND the bonus damage itself can crit. That's fucking stupid; she isn't Jhin, she doesn't have to reload or stop auto attacking. It should scale purely off of her AD.

She needs power adjustments. Nerf her passive's scaling, nerf the 9 seconds of true sight on her traps, buff her Q and ult.

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

How would her passive scale purely off of her AD?

Big LincolnJan 5, 20171 votes

By only scaling off AD? It's pretty self-explanatory.

vOmvbrawfUJan 6, 20171 votes

Then explain please. Wouldn't it always scale with attack speed since it will proc more? And wouldn't it always scale with Crit chance/damage since the attack could crit?

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

The damage scales up with crit chance and crit damage (IE). Even without purchasing any AD item, her Headshot becomes stronger with Zeal items. That's why the meta builds have her with IE and two Zeal items; because she's actually getting more damage on her Headshots by building them than she would going strictly AD and attack speed.

On top of that, the bonus headshot damage can crit, too. That amount of scaling is completely absurd, especially on a champion with long range.

MinaZer0Jan 5, 20171 votes

yea cait shouldnt be hated on ; item 3085 should though

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

I mean, she is a little too strong right now lol. But that could also be because her average games played is relatively high for an ADC. So most of the Caits you see are fairly experienced with her. So that artificially inflates her apparent strength as well. I think some small changes can be made to her without gutting her identity (ie what 98% of people on the boards want to do so that they can then just turn their hate to Vayne for becoming pick/ban once Cait is nerfed).

DB GamingJan 5, 20171 votes

Since when is Caitlyn suppose to be an early game champ? They always talk about Cait "turning on" at 3 items in LCS.

vOmvbrawfUJan 5, 20171 votes

Having the highest auto attack range cements your role as an early game champ lol. Most ADCs "turn on" when they get 3 items lol.

DB GamingJan 6, 20171 votes

So Caitlyn is an early game ADC who turns on at 3 items. That does not compute.

Touch My BoxJan 5, 20171 votes

If you get trapped you need to re-evaluate if league of legends is for you.

Stupidly long arm time and the hit box is tiny compared to the graphic.

Unless you get trapped while CC'd, there isn't really an excuse.

Steel BlossomJan 5, 20171 votes

I just don't know why she gets to be safe with her trap and E. In fact, I don't know why any marksman Ezreal Corki Tristana Vayne Lucian gets to have any safety without their teammates peeling. Riot says it's a team game and makes diving require team synergy, but marksmen also have to be able to keep themselves alive against aggression...wat