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Dynamic Q is brain cancer

Unward49·5/4/2016, 8:46:16 AM·89 votes·3,447 views

I should not have to go 13/2/20 just to win a game.

I should not have to get 30% more gold than anyone else on my team AS THE JUNGLER just to win a game.

I should be matched with people of roughly equal skill to my own, but when the above is how hard I need to carry JUST TO PULL OUT A WIN then clearly this is NOT happening.

I should be getting my primary roll more than half the time, not less. (And this one is especially broken as there have been more than a few times where I have asked to swap for jungle and the jungler has told me they have jungle as primary and my secondary as their main. This one doesn't happen often, but it DOES happen. It shouldn't. Ever.)

So WHY THEN; if you can't match me with appropriate team mates and you can't give me my primary roll more than half the time... WHY THE FUCK have queue times ballooned to over 5 times what they were back in solo queue for my level?!

Literally everything is worse. I'm getting to play what I actually want to play less than I used to, I'm having worse games because the level of my team mates is completely unpredictable and I'm having to wait up to 20 minutes in the queue just to get a fucking terrible game at all.

Yes, this is just another "Dynamic queue is fucking garbage" Thread. They will stop being made when dynamic queue stops being fucking garbage.

66 Comments

PbJMpP4xzk5/4/2016, 1:39:44 PM14 votes

unward49 here some infos for you, yeah your queue time is 20x more long now guess why ? oh yeah alot of peoples just stopped playing this bullcrap piece of cancerous queue !

Xeruon5/4/2016, 6:27:55 PM8 votes

Unfortunately, Riot is a company. And what is a company's number one goal? Money.

As stated by countless people here already, DynQ is better financially for Riot because:

    • It caters to a younger audience who can feel more comfortable when playing ranked with a group of friends
    • Said younger audience are more likely to buy skins/gift eachother

Thus earning Riot more money, and leading them to promote DynQ, thus diluting the ranked ladder even more, and throwing the competitive environment ranked was supposed to provide in the trash.

ClatoVerataNicto5/5/2016, 1:22:20 AM6 votes

As someone with a brain tumor (I'm lucky mine is benign and nonthreatening), I wholeheartedly agree.

Fovere5/4/2016, 12:09:06 PM6 votes

The old system didn't rely on carrying four strangers, simply playing better, on average, than the people around your Elo.

The new system operates on the same principle but with higher variability due to the introduction of premades, and therefore requires more games played to climb. The reason it is more random is because you are not merely dependent upon the individual skill of the players but ADDITIONALLY the teamwork ability of the premade when compared to that of your opponent, who will typically have a premade as well.

Larger groups (>2) = More randomness

More randomness = More games needed

This is not hard to grasp.

WitchQueen Annie5/4/2016, 9:23:01 AM5 votes

Dynamic Q is way more logical than Solo Q in every single sense.

It promotes teamwork and rewards decent mechanical superiority so long as you have a few reliable team mates to train and fight with. Its what the game should be.

Solo Q is just silly. You just spend months and months swinging up and back down (rinse repeat) all over against because you only have a 44-66% win rate at any given day with the random assignment of 4 players (many who are AFKs, trolls, and suckers). Basically, you can't climb in a reasonable amount of time unless your skills are so over-tuned you can consistently carry 4 strangers; and that shouldn't be a requirement.

Thumpin5/4/2016, 7:44:21 PM5 votes

As a jungler lately every game of dynamic queue feels like a 1v9. Every damn game my teammates are completely useless, despite typically being a premade and supposedly having coordination. By the time I've ganked one lane the other two have already lost, with or without jungle pressure. I want solo queue back. My highest rank last season was gold 2, and now I can't even get out of silver 4. Did I get worse? Or did this big experiment of a season fuck over solo players?

Cosnirak5/4/2016, 8:07:39 PM5 votes

I should not have to go 13/2/20 just to win a game.

You don't.

I should not have to get 30% more gold than anyone else on my team AS THE JUNGLER just to win a game.

You don't.

I should be matched with people of roughly equal skill to my own, but when the above is how hard I need to carry JUST TO PULL OUT A WIN then clearly this is NOT happening.

Poorly matched games have ALWAYS been a problem and it's no worse now than before.

I should be getting my primary roll more than half the time, not less. (And this one is especially broken as there have been more than a few times where I have asked to swap for jungle and the jungler has told me they have jungle as primary and my secondary as their main. This one doesn't happen often, but it DOES happen. It shouldn't. Ever.)

Legit complaint, Riot agrees and is working on it. Mostly an issue tied to the unpopularity of support though.

So WHY THEN; if you can't match me with appropriate team mates and you can't give me my primary roll more than half the time... WHY THE FUCK have queue times ballooned to over 5 times what they were back in solo queue for my level?!

They haven't. Not even close.

Literally everything is worse. I'm getting to play what I actually want to play less than I used to, I'm having worse games because the level of my team mates is completely unpredictable and I'm having to wait up to 20 minutes in the queue just to get a fucking terrible game at all.

Literally false.

Yes, this is just another "Dynamic queue is fucking garbage" Thread. They will stop being made when dynamic queue stops being fucking garbage.

If anything is cancer it's these threads.

WhiteArabBro5/4/2016, 9:32:15 PM2 votes

I'm guessing this is another NA problem? We don't whine like this in EU.

Zoeeee5/4/2016, 8:14:30 PM2 votes

I played a game with a friend as singed zzrot, and I checked opgg in the loading screen. Everyone but me was either bronze 2 or 3.

I'm silver 5, the fact that it didn't put any other silver players in the game makes me sick. Silver-bronze is basically the same elo now. The game wasn't even close, and I didn't even say gg in allchat. I also got the same amount of lp for winning as playing solo (15), which is super broken. I wish I could get paired with players on roughly my skill level, but every game feels like a stomp or a struggle now.

SlashStriker5/4/2016, 12:46:09 PM2 votes

people should get banned for using the word CANCER i am tired of reading shit in the boards

Quepha5/5/2016, 3:45:12 PM1 votes

{quoted}

I should not have to go 13/2/20 just to win a game.

I should not have to get 30% more gold than anyone else on my team AS THE JUNGLER just to win a game.

I should be matched with people of roughly equal skill to my own, but when the above is how hard I need to carry JUST TO PULL OUT A WIN then clearly this is NOT happening.

Sounds like every season.

Emerald Fang5/5/2016, 4:17:30 AM1 votes

Lol the MMR is fucked up.

I have 1,050 MMR and keep getting matched with 1,300 and 1,400 MMR players. Usually they're on my team :)

GhastlyGhoulMan5/5/2016, 3:43:37 PM1 votes

Well technically Dynamic Queue is a program, not an aggressive cellular disease. But other than that I completely agree (sorry, smart A in the house).

Sai Aquarius5/4/2016, 5:01:08 PM1 votes

... item 3110 you have my frozen heart. Thank you.

WitchQueen Annie5/4/2016, 9:24:04 AM1 votes

Dynamic Q actually encourages you to fight and train as a team and rewards good team cohesion. In many ways it mirrors professional LCS League plays (Faker, Bjergsen and others play the way they do based on how they know the people they've trained and fought with will behave; it's a team game)

Voladiotis7/4/2016, 1:54:37 PM1 votes

You cant even get people to co-operate - meanwhile you're playing against kids with comms who instantly converge.. this game is so sickeining right now as a solo only player

MunchCrunchLunch5/5/2016, 12:06:56 AM1 votes

I had someone who was duoing with someone that is on their promos. didn't have much knowledge about the game. recently level 30. we lost. stop inviting newbies into ranked with others.