I want to play him as a support when im autofilled in ranked, but i don't want to first time shaco support and grief. I also don't want to waste time playing normals as a support, the role i hate the most. his winrate looks solid and he counters all engage supports, i definitely like this playstyle any support shaco mains tell me some tricks? some videos? pink ward?
iMidg3t2 votesHit up our mod ChickenWrap, hes a shaco main (pretty sure hes playing him supp, but not 100% sure). Im also interested in shaco supp.
Chalangar2 votesShort answer: Watch Pink Ward on YouTube
Medium answer: play A LOT of normals as shaco support to learn this play style.
Long answer: set up boxes at common gank paths, in brush, and in your tower when the enemy looks like they're going to dive. typically go comet, mana band, transcendence, scorch or whatever it's called, and cosmic insight, biscuit delivery for secondary.
Liandry and rylai are key on him as well as the blue support item. Go trinket after first back to constantly deny enemy vision.
Shaco sup is a decent roamer as well and can help secure kills at mid.
Plant wards/boxes in enemy JG and play to collapse on them with mid.
The people you're watching play Shaco support and do well aren't causal players. Shaco sup isn't a casual pick. You gotta play a lot of it to get a feel for how to bait, how to engage, how to trick, etc. Yes he does well vs engage supports that seem to be a pain right now (i.e. Pyke).
If you hope to just watch some videos and think you're ready for ranked Shaco sup you'll more than likely die a lot, lose lane, and get players angry at you.
Just my 2 cents
Summoner SpeII1 votesShort answer: Watch Pink Ward on YouTube
Medium answer: play A LOT of normals as shaco support to learn this play style.
Long answer: set up boxes at common gank paths, in brush, and in your tower when the enemy looks like they're going to dive. typically go comet, mana band, transcendence, scorch or whatever it's called, and cosmic insight, biscuit delivery for secondary.
Liandry and rylai are key on him as well as the blue support item. Go trinket after first back to constantly deny enemy vision.
Shaco sup is a decent roamer as well and can help secure kills at mid.
Plant wards/boxes in enemy JG and play to collapse on them with mid.
The people you're watching play Shaco support and do well aren't causal players. Shaco sup isn't a casual pick. You gotta play a lot of it to get a feel for how to bait, how to engage, how to trick, etc. Yes he does well vs engage supports that seem to be a pain right now (i.e. Pyke).
If you hope to just watch some videos and think you're ready for ranked Shaco sup you'll more than likely die a lot, lose lane, and get players angry at you.
Just my 2 cents
i inted my last blitz crank game, it cant get worse than me going 0/8/6 biltzcrank. I rather keep my adc safe from those hookers and junglers with some boxes that act as free wards while poking with e
Kazekiba1 votesCould you not start Sweepers + W? You cant really burn a lot of mana in lane, so 50 mana every 14 seconds is easily sustainable, and effectively wards. Theyre lower durartion and easily killed, but the opponent takes damage doing this (thus youre getting Spellthief procs + potions out of it), may miss CS, and you can always just drop another.
Right? Or is it preferred to stick with Yellow first, or situational
Chalangar1 votesTo each their own. I like the ward to either put in river brush or in enemy jungle camps to track their jungler. Also I play a little more aggressive so I run out of mana sooner
Cind3rkick1 votesIts all about the box placement.
Shaco wants the enemy to run into his boxes, which is why he is a good support at the moment due to the amount of engage supports being played.
In lane:
Try to keep your boxes in the middle of the lane where your carry will be standing. Most shaco supports I see always put it at the edge of lane, meaning most of the boxes just time out.
If the enemy have sweepers and control wards around lane and keep destroying your boxes, head into enemy jungle to be a pest there.
Its also usually worth having a box at dragon to delay the enemy if they start it.
E is surprisingly good at poke. Try to use it whenever comet is up. You can cheese the enemy buff at level 1 using your boxes if you get there in time.
Most of lane shaco is just anticipating what the enemy will do.
Out of lane:
Very few mechanics needed past Q and abusing ult to dodge abilities.
If an ally is split pushing, setup boxes around their jungle side and go be a threat with your team on the other. You can completely block of paths with boxes and give the pusher plenty of time to escape.
Enemies run. Boxes dont. You gotta. E behind enemies to place your boxes in a skirmish.
Ult to take towers and objectives.
Keep boxes at the entrances to both pits.
Try to work out where fights will happen and make sure that area is covered in 3+ boxes.
Coming from 100k points of AP shaco top. I feel these things will stay similar on the opposite side of the map.
As Chalangar said, you cant just "pick up shaco and win". Shaco is probably one of the champions that require the most game knowledge. Pink Ward wins because he knows **exactly **what the enemy is going to do.
Darkdemon6531 votesIf you don't want to grief, don't try to play Shaco as a support or anything but a jungler.