Whats the purpose of ADCs?

Caítlyn·Jun 25, 2016·5 votes·1,228 views

Other than to be free food for all the bruisers, tanks, assassins, in the game?

23 Comments

MarshbouyJun 25, 20164 votes

I was going to write a comment stating how this is untrue and blah blah blah, but ive played more support than usual lately and i cannot disagree with you.

CaítlynJun 25, 20162 votes

When I play one of these champs, I dont go after the ADC because they are important to kill. I go after them because they are free kills.

MarshbouyJun 25, 20161 votes

Half the time they are.

CaítlynJun 25, 20161 votes

I just played Ascension vs XinZhao Jax Irelia as Vayne I wanted to cry

With my (dare I say skill) I somehow managed to go 13/15 but it felt like I was dying before I could even press Q Looking back I have no idea where those 13 kills came from...probably ks

MarshbouyJun 25, 20162 votes

ur fault for playing an ADC on ascension.

CaítlynJun 25, 20161 votes

Im a masochist. Thats why I main ADC

MarshbouyJun 25, 20161 votes

im a masochist. thats why i play jungle and support. i get flamed for something every game.

DefendedJun 26, 20161 votes

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When I play one of these champs, I dont go after the ADC because they are important to kill. I go after them because they are free kills.

just play lucian because hes ''fun''

Linna ExcelJun 25, 20162 votes

The role of the ADC is to take objectives and bring damage in a teamfight. Yes I know the OP posted a rhetorical question.

However, if the ADC can't get peel from his team, he should probably main Ezreal, Lucian, or someone with mobility.

AlwaysByMySideJun 26, 20162 votes

Coming to the boards and whining about how oppressed they are.

Stick In MuddJun 25, 20161 votes

But you must feed with dignity. And hope that by your feeding, their assassins, bruisers, etc, are caught out of position and your team wins the fight to win the game.

Critmaster GarenJun 25, 20161 votes

your job is simply to not die to deal respectable sustained damage to champions, jungle objectives and turrets. this class of champions is in fact still strong enough at what its doing, that you cant form a team without them if you want to have a decent chance at winning.

youre welcome.

CaítlynJun 25, 20162 votes

Have you ever tried making a team without them? No?

Thats what I thought. People need to stop being meta sheep.

legionnaire99Jun 25, 20161 votes

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Have you ever tried making a team without them? No?

Thats what I thought. People need to stop being meta sheep.

yes i put a fightier bot lane and he did more damage then a normal adc

Critmaster GarenJun 25, 20161 votes

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yes i put a fightier bot lane and he did more damage then a normal adc

and lose midgame as the enemy takes baron, drakes and turrets twice as fast, while youre struggling to push against ranged waveclear at all.

people tried it. i tried it myself. you can win early game and stomp lane without an adc and youll lose mid to lategame because a fighter cant siege as well. people tend to severely underestimate the importance of adc in sieges.

its been a while, but ive seen a statistic when adc were even weaker than now.

it was about win % of teams with varying number of members of the same class on a team.

basically what happens when you have 0, 1, 2, 3 adc on your team? how much win % do teams with 0, 1, 2, 3... fighters have on the team? etc. basically for each class.

the by far lowest wnrate of all at nearly 30% were teams with 0 adc.

dont forget, that since then riot has increased the ability of adc to siege turrets even further. be it with kit reworks like tristana with her bomb, or miss fortune with her passive procs against turrets, or additions like jhins 4th shot being able to crit turrets etc. and the addition of on-hit effects now working against turrets.

CaítlynJun 26, 20161 votes

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people tried it. i tried it myself. you can win early game and stomp lane without an adc

So you tried it and it works. Now snowball your advantage and towerdive. Since when have bruisers been scared to towerdive?

Critmaster GarenJun 26, 20161 votes

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So you tried it and it works. Now snowball your advantage and towerdive. Since when have bruisers been scared to towerdive?

when theyre facing

Vayne Jinx Ashe Twitch Tristana MissFortune Sivir KogMaw Lucian

who are actually protected by their team.

have you ever eaten a full culling as a bruiser, have you been right clicked by a vayne, or tried to engage on a tristana in melee under her turret? this isnt even counting mage waveclear, cc and aoe damage, or supports like lulu or nami.

this might work on aram half the time, because summoner 32 exists there and you end up with dumb enemy teamcomps with low synergy. but if you try that shit against a decent teamcomp in an actual game you get destroyed.

CaítlynJun 26, 20161 votes

Is there any argument without including the ADCs teammates? Because we are not talking about teammates here.

ApocalypsicJun 26, 20161 votes

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Is there any argument without including the ADCs teammates? Because we are not talking about teammates here.

Don't 1v1 bruisers and assassins?

I mean that's what I would say.

You have to consider team mates because of all classes (other than support) I'd say ADC is based the most around playing with your team.

legionnaire99Jun 26, 20161 votes

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and lose midgame as the enemy takes baron, drakes and turrets twice as fast, while youre struggling to push against ranged waveclear at all.

people tried it. i tried it myself. you can win early game and stomp lane without an adc and youll lose mid to lategame because a fighter cant siege as well. people tend to severely underestimate the importance of adc in sieges.

its been a while, but ive seen a statistic when adc were even weaker than now.

it was about win % of teams with varying number of members of the same class on a team.

basically what happens when you have 0, 1, 2, 3 adc on your team? how much win % do teams with 0, 1, 2, 3... fighters have on the team? etc. basically for each class.

the by far lowest wnrate of all at nearly 30% were teams with 0 adc.

dont forget, that since then riot has increased the ability of adc to siege turrets even further. be it with kit reworks like tristana with her bomb, or miss fortune with her passive procs against turrets, or additions like jhins 4th shot being able to crit turrets etc. and the addition of on-hit effects now working against turrets.

no there ashe couldn't stand up and keep dying it was to funny and are mid laner was azri so we have siegeing

Linna ExcelJun 25, 20161 votes

If you are in the queue as an adc and you don't pick one, your teammates are going to rage and probably report you.

MrPharmDJun 25, 20161 votes

Nice bait mate.

LovelleJun 26, 20161 votes

ADCs are a flawed class to begin with. Having to auto attack for 90% of your damage, while going glass cannon, is nothing but a weakness when there are champions that can dash all over the place and deal massive burst damage. The main ones that do work deal a lot of spell damage and can get away with armor pen builds. On Summoner's Rift, no other class competes with them when it comes to taking down towers. However, outside of the rift they're easily the weakest class of champions.

I feel like the game would be much better off if balance wasn't centered around them. ADCs are one of the things that's killing the diversity of LoL, particularly on SR.