Who would be most OP with an item that refreshed all cooldowns?

Caítlyn··11 votes·2,548 views

Im talking about Refresher Orb the item from Dota2. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Refresher_Orb

Refreshes all cooldowns of spells and item actives. Theres no summoner spells in Dota2 but lets say this item refreshed those too.

Who is now OP?

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Lazypeon10021 votes

Back to back karthus ult. Where is your god now?!

Starfish H7 votes

Bard Soraka Kindred item 3157 : We are here

KONO RUBICK DA9 votes

then you build refresher against him, and refresh your zhonya dodging his 2 ulti

Ahristocats1 votes

also refreshing banshee

people are thinking that karthus will be good, but the delay on his ulti would make it counterable if you also build refresher.

Arakadia5 votes

What if you built refresher to refresh the refresher?

Atanchan4 votes

That'd be like building two Zhonyas to go in stasis for 5 seconds straight.

Which is to say, you sink 5800 gold into two of the same item and realize they share a cooldown.

Lazypeon1001 votes

That would counter it, but by then it might be too late. That is a lot of good to spend! Also not everyone can really use hour glass.

cackles like a madman.

I think I'm having too much fun with this idea thread.

Best princess EU1 votes

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i saw refresher, it just gives mana regen, has a huge long cooldown and costs a lot.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

One thing I don't think you realize is that stats in dota work very differently. In dota mana basically doesnt regenerate on its own, mana regen is massively more powerful. Offensive stats work very differently, mages pretty much have base values to work with.

I can't be very much more detailed since I have only barely dabbled in dota, but I can attest that items in dota generally have much more power in passives and actives than they do in numerical stats

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

mages scale with int, refresher doesn't give int

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I am aware it doesn't give Int. I wasn't saying it gave Int.

EndlessSorcerer16 votes

Zilean I am your new god.

  • Quadruple Bomb (with 3 back-to-back AoE stuns)
  • 4 MS buffs/slows
  • 2 revives in a teamfight

Not going to lie; this would be obnoxious to play against.

Scary Door8 votes

The answer is always Karthus.

Aeszarck6 votes

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The answer is always Karthus.

Will that win teamfights for you though?

Imagine two flashes+Idol of Durand, or flash+Idol of Durand+Idol of Durand. Karthus can finish off people and does a lot of damage, but a good Galio ult can win teamfights more reliably, I'd say.

Skyslayer6307 votes

Trynd could still be kited around even with 2 ults. I think Lissandra would be a serious pain. As would Veigar.

Very Hard Engage6 votes

Annie 2 bears

Galio Amumu Sejuani Lissandra all in circle jerk league with eachother.

Tryndamere 12s of madness.

pripustas5 votes

Tryndamere this guy xD

ThePartyLeader4 votes

Alister headbutt combo in, ult, heal, pulverize team a second time when they land, headbutt a carry into his team, heal then ult again once his current one runs out.

Solari Fortune4 votes

Lets see.. Karthus Double Ult Leona Oh you wanted to move? Funny Morgana AFK warning

FantasySniper4 votes

Anyone that can solo CC-chain like Leona, Naut, etc. Aatrox Double BotRK, Ghostblade, Knockup, and ult would all make him a powerhouse. MasterYi Same, but probably worse. Darius Double the true damage nuke, you'd never miss the dunk reset ever again. Garen Missing health damage, so double the nuke is actually more than double the justice. Veigar Missing health damage, so double the nuke is actually more than double the evil. Katarina She already has CD resets, so it's as if CDs don't exist. Leblanc This isn't normal keyboard smashing. This is advanced keyboard smashing Morgana Pop some popcorn, you've got time. Zyra Welcome to the jungle. Zilean He has a refresh for his refresh. Zed 4 shadows, guaranteed kills with the second ult.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

Zilean Q-W-Q-Item-Q-W-Q. 3.6 AP + 4.5 Seconds of AoE Stun.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Upvoted for Spongebob

MunchCrunchLunch3 votes

kennen would be really strong.

Jet Sett3 votes

Things will get pretty HEATED if this BRAND new item gets added. It'll be too hot to handle, though I'm sure the community will give it a WARM welcome.

Desiderium2 votes

I'd say Zed but his energy costs would make him weak with the item.

Probably Karthus

Penns2 votes

Id like it on my boy Fizz Zhonyas, E, item, E, Zhonyas, lata Kappa

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Do you watch Trick2g

Your third mom2 votes

Zed, and any burst mage like Veigar

The Deckowner3 votes

Zed has no energy to ult again after his combo tho, even when the cd is refreshed.

zlumpy2 votes

I think taric would love a refresher orb.

Melledoneus2 votes

Fiora HAHAHAHAHAHAA! Trundle MORE STATS FOR MEEEE! Illaoi Come on and SLAM! Garen MOAR JUSTICE! Mordekaiser The first dragon was lonely so I got him a friend. Leblanc Breaks keyboard Shen How to gank two lanes in 8 seconds.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I thought the ghost dragon was obtained passively? Not sure a CD refresh would get him another

Melledoneus1 votes

AurelionSol Shyvana Dragon Trainer Tristana

taleofsonata1 votes

Leblanc would probably burst down a full MR build Mundo with his ult up. With a ERQWERQW

AlmightyEyal1 votes

QR*

taleofsonata1 votes

E highest base damage and highest ratio and slow and snare.

The Deckowner1 votes

Q r is highest dmg im pretty sure.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

QR and ER do the same damage

I had this debate with someone (at the time i was arguing for q r as well) and they mathed me real gud

Lowvyr1 votes

Ryze Do I even need to mention what happens when you give me less cooldowns

PhDs Nuts14 votes

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Ryze Do I even need to mention what happens when you give me less cooldowns

Ryze is at the bottom of the list. He already has no cooldowns.

Taric would be busted.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Blitz Amumu Lux Janna J4 Skarnner Azir Cho Darius Fiddlesticka Kennen Lissandra Leona Karthus Soraka Malphite Trundle Warwick Zyra

Best is hard to say but these are all champs who could easily justify it given their kits.

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

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Blitz refresh his ulti? blitz as a support will deal no damage anyway Amumu yes Lux Nop, with 40% cdr she has almost no cdr and if you refresh your ulti they will dodge the second Janna depends J4 yes Skarnner yes Azir yes Cho depends Darius lol? Fiddlesticka So how do you plan to cast your second ulti? Kennen yes Lissandra yes Leona yes Karthus can be easily countered Soraka yes Malphite just for a second 1 sec knock up? there may be better items Trundle nop Warwick nop Zyra yes

Best is hard to say but these are all champs who could easily justify it given their kits.

aLawfulFalafel2 votes

thats not how quoting works, if these are your opinions you should state them as such, instead of quoting someone else having your opinions when in fact, they didnt say this ^^

I Am Luxanna1 votes

but if u have a yasuo on ur team and enemy team is split in 2 groups.... ult them all, get 5 man yas ult.

I Am Luxanna1 votes

what if it took of yasuo's e timers? o.O

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I'm not sure that would be as big a buff as it may seem.

Pika Fox1 votes

Alistar.

Cannot die even longer, And 2x 5 man knock up.

In all seriousness, Annie, Zilean or Taric would likely be among the top.

Kingdom Corn1 votes

imagine a triple q zilean... double stun tha would be awesome but not the strongest. op wise I would say Azir though. Double the walls double the fun

Papa Slothy1 votes

Leblanc hue

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