"Runes Reforged", the future of pre-game choices is here folks!

Malicious Metal·May 30, 2017·107 votes·17,844 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY67yCaGdno&t=198s

I for once am really excited about this!

266 Comments

AhristocatsMay 30, 201750 votes

tbh, more excited about what they plan for those who bought every runes

i even have lifesteal runes as in season 2 they were broken before their nerfs

RalanrMay 30, 201721 votes

If it's free IP then people are getting a shit ton.

AhristocatsMay 30, 201724 votes

they said it's not free ip

but players who unlocked runes will unlock features depending on how much runes they had

AirKingNeoMay 30, 201713 votes

Probably hextech rewards.

Really, I just want the whole 1 chets per champion per season removed. I play Kayle and mostly that. My S ranks feel worthless other than "hey I won".

NineTailedMysticMay 30, 20176 votes

Same. If they're looking to make Hextech stuff a bigger thing then they need to open it to OTPs more.

nice tableMay 30, 201716 votes

think its worth for me to go and buy rest of the runes? have excess ip anyways.

AhristocatsMay 30, 201711 votes

you can maybe wait for them to reveal what it is

Mysticman89May 30, 20173 votes

I don't like how they've apparently said this somewhere and it's not clear where (probably reddit?), but I wish I could find all 'new' info by skimming the red tracker instead of needing to (find someone else who already did) stalk riot twitters or reddit.

Even the comments section of the /dev video thing is separate from the forums so it's yet another place that need to be manually checked for red responses. >.>

(It'll also be interesting to see if maybe people might want to turn around and dump a ton of ip into runes right now in the hopes of turning that IP into something they wouldn't normally be able to get for IP [e.g. key frags/chests].)

SegiusMay 30, 20173 votes

Youtube..... and social media..... on their home page

Mysticman89May 30, 20175 votes

I'm specifically referring to the claim that they [riot] said it's not free ip as compensation, which I still haven't actually found despite skimming the /dev comments and the youtube comments and reddit.

Linna ExcelMay 30, 20173 votes

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tbh, more excited about what they plan for those who bought every runes

Key fragments. 1 per 6300 ip you've spent on runes.

And A Real HieroMay 30, 20174 votes

I already have a million keys, so no thanks.

elon wątrobaMay 30, 201710 votes

I've got 18 boxes, so i wouldn't mind.

PlacentasMay 30, 20174 votes

18 boxes??? How?

elon wątrobaMay 30, 20175 votes

I think i got all the chest i could, maybe skipped 1 or 2. It's not that hard, when you own all champions.

PlacentasMay 31, 20173 votes

I have all but 8 champions. Getting chests and S aren't a problem, but I usually only have 4-6 chests at a time and not more than 2-3 chests available to get a time and usually 0-1.

Do you just not ever get keys? lol

RiotSparkleMay 31, 201715 votes

Not ready to talk about that yet, because we're still working on the transition plan. We do want to hear your feedback and have time to act on it though!

We realize there are a lot of different kinds of players with different priorities and needs for the transition into Preseason and we want to make sure we're taking care of everyone. Once we have something to share, we will share our plans for the transition and we're aiming to give players a degree of control over their transition care package. We'll have more details on this slightly closer to Preseason.

JRobin31May 31, 201714 votes

I like that runes give stats and you can organize and shuffle according to how much of particular stats you want. I do not like the mastery system. I really don't like keystones at all.

Changing the rune system to be a mastery system worries me. It sounds like there are going to weird runes that give abilities like masteries would give (only more powerful). I don't see where we get to pick stats that we think would be useful (which is how runes currently work).

So imo, **it doesn't seem to me like we are getting a new rune system. It seems like we a losing the rune system and getting a buffed mastery system :/ ** The one good thing is the new system doesn't appear to have Offense, Defense, Utility trees. I'm really glad to not see that and maybe that is the one thing can can redeem this new system. The nice things about runes was their flexibility and the bad thing about masteries was the way they forced unwanted choices onto us.

LichKing234May 31, 20172 votes

well can you answer my ? its mostly about berserk keystone and jhin since it said it breaks the cap for awhile does this mean that jhin can attack faster i mean yeah he cant get bonus attack speed from items or other sorces but will this force him to attack faster? im just curious about the interactiong

RiotSparkleMay 31, 20175 votes

Jhin's a bit of an odd duck. Berserk will trigger the same AD conversion that items/other sources do for him - won't "force" him to attack faster.

Sun Wu RyuumokuMay 31, 20171 votes

Not related, but when will u speak about Divers update ?

RiotSparkleMay 31, 20175 votes

Me? Never. Happy to talk about Runes Reforged though, that's the project I work on.

Sahn UzalMay 31, 20172 votes

A few months later...

''Yo Sparkle, what do you think about the Divers update?''

Remembers promise to never speak about the Divers update

''...''

RiotSparkleMay 31, 20173 votes

The pact is made. :P

Crai CrushnaMay 31, 20174 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sparkle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gFoiYuMZ,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2017-05-31T02:03:00.889+0000)

Not ready to talk about that yet, because we're still working on the transition plan. We do want to hear your feedback and have time to act on it though!

We realize there are a lot of different kinds of players with different priorities and needs for the transition into Preseason and we want to make sure we're taking care of everyone. Once we have something to share, we will share our plans for the transition and we're aiming to give players a degree of control over their transition care package. We'll have more details on this slightly closer to Preseason.

What about people like me that bought rune pages with RP? I bought a 7 rune page bundle and 2 2 for 1's. Will we get atleast some rp back like 50%? I own all champs and icons that are IP available.

WinTheWarOnPantsMay 30, 201731 votes

"In the new system, a keystone rune gets to be much more powerfull; than anything we've had in pregame before" http://imgur.com/a/VXQ17

Velzard of KozMay 30, 201734 votes

Remember, remember the Thunderlord on each game member.

The Yetii RiderMay 30, 201730 votes

Overheal - Because pressing R as Mundo should give you a Bloodthirster.

RalanrMay 30, 20174 votes

I think self regen heals might be unaffected.

The Yetii RiderMay 30, 201711 votes

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I think self regen heals might be unaffected.

Their example in the video shows GP using his orange.

RalanrMay 30, 20178 votes

That heal has a flat amount though.

OelykMay 30, 201712 votes

But its rapid regen, not actually a flat heal.

Sahn UzalMay 30, 201725 votes

Would be cool if the Wolf Spirit from Old Devourer returned with one of these. I really liked having a little wolf companion :P

RiotSparkleMay 30, 201725 votes

Lmao at one point you could finagle it to take all dog-themed runes. A lot of those ones are gone or transformed now but the meta of "dog build" was real.

DoozkuMay 30, 20179 votes

Full Dog WW camping Wolves? yes plz

RiotDjango UnJanedMay 30, 201716 votes

The Doggo build was surprisingly good on Warwick. RIP Doggo Build, I'll miss you.

RiotSparkleMay 30, 201712 votes

Sahn UzalMay 30, 20177 votes

Press F to pay respect. o7

Ez dePazMay 31, 20179 votes

Can we get some insight in what the Doggo build used to be? Maybe after the final runes are actualy revealed.

Sahn UzalMay 30, 20177 votes

I suggest you bring it back. Me wants Doggo build.

SnakDatSmilesBakMay 30, 201715 votes

I just want to note that the overheal is really smart. The way the did it makes it so that overheal from an ally only applies if you yourself are running the keystone. This is the opposite of what we have today where a Soraka enhances her heals on everyone regardless of their masteries.

Now players have to individually choose if they want a bonus to heals or something else. I like the direction this is going in and I can't wait to hear more about it.

RalanrMay 30, 201712 votes

I'm really excited to see what sort of tank or juggernaut rune set ups I can make.

The new honor system is interesting. Do I lose honor if I don't get any votes for periods of time? Do you lose it if people report or "dishonor" you? I feel it's open to abuse and threats, but I'm interested to see how it motivates people to play honorable to get better rewards.

Legacy HydralphaMay 30, 20175 votes

According to a Rioter, you lose honor for being penalized after being reported. If you don't get punished after a false report, nothing to worry about.

SlashStrikerMay 30, 201710 votes

Man at Arms: Runes Reforged

Heretic LunariMay 30, 20178 votes

Nice, I can have the Star Guardian Zephyr without actually buying the skin. Neato

DarkRitualMay 30, 201712 votes

It's likely a placeholder for now. But think of Janna with this and Pix on her. ALL THE FLOATY THINGS!

MelledoneusMay 30, 20174 votes

It's like those high level WoW players with like 20 pets.

RiotSparkleMay 30, 201721 votes

It is SO incredibly placeholder.

We're showing all "WIP" stuff, so you're basically taking a peek into how things look before they get dedicated art. There's a lot of re-purposing things so we can test them.

PuttybloMay 31, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sparkle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gFoiYuMZ,comment-id=000800000002,timestamp=2017-05-30T22:45:07.386+0000)

It is SO incredibly placeholder.

We're showing all "WIP" stuff, so you're basically taking a peek into how things look before they get dedicated art. There's a lot of re-purposing things so we can test them.

So, is it safe to say all existing runes no longer exist?

So, we no longer do the -inset flad ad + armor + as runes- ???

Is there any unique runes that we'd be looking forward to? Or do you guys not have much of an idea yet?

Also how does this impact bot lane and jungle specifically since these two lanes have the most complex rune choices to be viable.

RiotSparkleMay 31, 20178 votes

Mannnn, it's not safe to say any of that yet haha. That's a lotta assumptions make off of the statement "this Perxie art isn't final", which is alls I'm saying in this instance.

We'll have more details coming out soon; let's talk specifics then.