@Riot: What will the future bring for Twisted Treeline?

Oswald Mandus·Feb 2, 2016·27 votes·1,651 views

Dear employees of Riot,

do you have any plans for Twisted Treeline for this season? I am a huge fan of this mode but I think this map needs to progress along with all the changes you made since its last rework.

I would like to ask you what you think about the following topics regarding 3v3. It would be a great if someone of the Riot staff could look into this.

Gameplay (Jungle, Altars, ...)
Design (visual update)
Intergrity (potential solo/dynamic queue, normal draft pick)
Balancing (specific champions and items)

I have the feeling that you don't really care about the current state of our beloved Twisted Treeline at the moment. I guess only few people play on this map these days (sometimes I get 30 min queues for Normal Games)...

Who is concerned with Twisted Treeline at Riot? Is there a dedicated team for this mode?

Best regards, Oswald Mandus

17 Comments

Slack KingFeb 3, 201611 votes

They dont care about anything but summoners rift. They at first made it look like they cared, by giving certain nerfs to champions only for TT. Then they just gave up.

I feel Rito doesnt care unless it has anything at all to do with LCS. Anything else is irrelevant.

Silents429Feb 3, 20161 votes

Did they not update it 2 patches in a row with a bunch of changes to the altars, additional turrets, new buff from the Vilemaw and make Jungling viable? As well as rebalancing/reintroducing items?

What the hell else do you want?

MinardeFeb 4, 20161 votes

More regular attention for alternate maps would be nice.

Aside from two champion rework follow-ups, there hasn't been a champ balance change for any alternate map since August 2014 with 4.15. Actually, barring the aforementioned champ reworks, the only balance change of any sort for any non-SR map since 5.13 in July 2015 was "Health relics now spawn 10 seconds earlier" in 6.2. That's seven months of almost complete silence.

Yes, the 5.11 TT mini-rework was great. Much appreciation to the team for gathering feedback and doing that. Despite that, Riot as a whole still badly fumbles alternate maps support. They'll throw out some patches with a few lines of updates and then completely ignore the map for the rest of the year. There's a bunch of features or changes that alternate maps still haven't gotten, such as the Marksman itemization update, minion skins, and Mastery (plus Crafting).

Silents429Feb 4, 20161 votes

Well its the main map versus the ones that hardly see play.

Smitty ManjensenFeb 3, 20162 votes

Well, let's see, they'll probably gonna remove it, then a bunch of people who never played it like the rest gonna complain how they played it, so that's probably it.

MinardeFeb 2, 20161 votes

Good luck with getting an answer. There's been virtually no information from Riot about alternate maps since, I think, the texture/minion updates a while back. Even Champ Mastery and Hextech Crafting were only confirmed for "being actively discussed."

Devack The HolyFeb 3, 20162 votes

points to PBE

I.... think we're past the "active discussion" phase here.

MinardeFeb 3, 20161 votes

There's been info about Mastery and Crafting for alternate maps on the PBE? I've only seen various confirmations that both features are still limited to SR only.

Devack The HolyFeb 3, 20161 votes

Oh, I assumed you meant those in general, not on other maps...

Hell, I'm still waiting for them to show your score in Dominion instead of your KDA on the new HUD.

MinardeFeb 3, 20161 votes

Showing KDA's actually more useful than showing personal score. It's a relatively long explanation, but the summary is that personal score is typically more misleading than it is helpful. Personal score emphasizes certain actions over others without considering circumstances, giving players a greatly flawed representation of their in-game contributions. The high-MMR Dominion community pretty much unanimously agrees that personal score should be removed from the map.

Feel free to ask if you want the longer explanation.

StratavotisFeb 3, 20161 votes

forever a myth... the magma chamber...

HaloFeb 3, 20161 votes

No, it aint a myth. It got canceled because Riot didnt like how it turned out.

The LovelessFeb 3, 20161 votes

It's an easy mode to play as a bruiser when you don't have 5 people potentially peeling and kiting you, but it's also not as engaging as larger 5v5s. You kill 1-3 people and you have no human interaction until they respawn. There's nothing for you to think about until then.