Dear employees of Riot,
now, after your unexpected announcement regarding the "retirement" of Dominion, I would like to ask you a serious question:
Will you shut down Twisted Treeline too at some point? Are you going to continue ignoring the balance of this particular mode as you did the past months? Or, will you finally invest some ressources to evolve the Treeline?
On behalf of the 3v3 community: I request an honest answer of Riot!
Radioactive Man14 votesTwisted Treeline probably has like 10-15% of the playerbase.
Dominion had less than 0.5%.
People need to stop acting like Dominion hadn't already removed itself years ago just because they remembered it existed when Riot said something about it.
Doctor Ivellius6 votesOr we could be upset that Riot never gave it a fair chance and turned on ranked queues like they promised?
Or even just the general principle that they said they'd keep it around forever, even when people were worried about it?
Remlap12234 votesDominion lost all of its playerbase almost instantly. I would much rather they do it as a yearly featured game mode like URF. They can focus much better attention to that anyways.
Cindikle1 votesProblem with that is they are removing the map.
If we see it back, it'll probably be on TT. Since the mode is based around a smaller map. SR would just be too big and HA would never work.
But since one of their reasons for dropping this mode is that they are creating two animations for every champion(about to channel, then channeling) for 0.05% of the playerbase. I doubt we'll see this mode back ever. At best it'll work like Skarner's shrines.
Remlap12232 votesI think you just answered your own turmoil.
I seriously doubt that Riot is going to completely abandon it. They just don't want to support it 24/7. It's not a popular game mode, it takes up valuable resources they could be putting somewhere else, and its a favorite to put botted accounts in.
It'll come back as a modified Twisted Treeline map, probably in the wintertime as the antethesis to URF's summertime play.
Remlap12233 votesIt's like with literally every rework Riot has done. Sion, Poppy, Gangplank, all those champs had a virtually non-existent playerbase due to the fact that they were extremely shitty (although I personally do miss the fun of GP support).
When all three of their reworks rolled around, suddenly the champions had a playerbase the size of Lee Sin, and everyone was tripping over themselves to comment on how bad the reworks were and how they destroyed champion identity.
Why do you think so many threads like this pop up? Because people get to pat themselves on the back that they made a front page thread by echoing the same whines over and over again.
elon wątroba1 votesNone of these champion were shitty, they had toxic kits with tons of hidden power and lack of counterplay.
This is weird1 votesbased on that logic, Bronze has like 90% of the playerbase yet all the changes are based around pro play.
Riot has lost its way - next step? Pay to play.
Moar chromapacks plz.
The Governer5 votesThe problem with your analogy is that players do not take up resources and money. A permanent map mode with little to no players does.
Go figure.
T RexHasTinyArms1 votesWell if riro had to try and teach bronze players to improve and climb out bronze might get cut. Huge sink hole of money right there if the players don't want to improve. Having climbed out of bronze multiple times (came back rusty season 5 after quiting s4) I can say most players there after any reasonable number of games are only there bc they don't want to improve (won't acknowledge what they do poorly and thus cannot work to improve it).
Oswald Mandus2 votesI will stand on your side if someone dares to threaten you!
Baron Von Bangin7 votesThey'll say "no", but once they are even slightly inconvenienced by TTL they'll scrap it or leave it to rot. Just like everything else they create.
manliestdino5 votesMy guess: They won't remove twisted treeline. It has a decent fan base, and it's great when you don't have 4 other people to play with. It also has a ranked ladder with people playing it much more than people play Dominion.
Zantumall5 votesTT still gets balance changes, just smaller ones. The TT meta has some outliers, but it's got the same core mechanics as SR, so champions who are balanced on SR will usually be pretty similarly balanced on TT. I play a fair amount of ranked TT with a couple friends and we mostly ban the same people as on SR, with a couple exceptions.
Because it's so similar to SR gameplay-wise, balancing champs around SR usually keeps them pretty balanced on TT as well. Dominion would have needed huge investments to keep balanced because the way you played Dominion was way different from the way you play SR, so more champions would have needed map-specific changes.
Silents4294 votesThey said they weren't going to shut down TT.
