Nerf Morgana

Malza·Apr 3, 2018·3 votes·1,177 views

There a multitude of important reasons why we need to nerf morgana.

She has garen level skillcap with insane reward, normally when champions are as easy as garen they aren't almost pick ban in pro play and high elo.
Morganas black shield is generally the best shield / ally protector in the game, producing more value than a lulu ult often will on only a 15 second cooldown. Versus a lot of champions this is like having a tahm kench W except that the champion protected can still attack from it
Nobody likes morganas snares.
Morgana is the lee sin of supports, her existence makes CC reliant dive champions unviable as soon as she is picked.

12 Comments

SammyDayspringApr 3, 20183 votes

If she is so OP, why isn't she picked all the time in pro play? Her binding is hard to hit. stay behind the minions. She is squishy and easy to dive. She can only shield one. She has her uses, but she is hardly running away with bot lane.

MalzaApr 3, 20183 votes

She is picked or ban all of the time in pro play, so your statement is factually wrong.

ÅeolusApr 3, 20182 votes

You're basically listing all of Morgana's abilities and saying she's overpowered. The evidence you provided can be used with a lot of champions. Garen doesn't have a skillshot and her ultimate is hard to use. item 3140 and item 3222 exist for snares. You can dive the enemy team if you're quick enough or by flanking. She's strong but she isn't OP.

MalzaApr 3, 20182 votes

Why was she picked or banned in all but one game of the NA LCS semifinals if she is not overpowered?

This post is also focusing on morganas black shield, not all of her abilities.

DehydrationApr 3, 20182 votes

I think she is strong, but not nerf worthy. Also, 1. and 2. statment are incorrect.

nm1010Apr 3, 20181 votes

I really hope the change to a bar code name was a coincidence and not related to the shit post spam.

MalzaApr 3, 20181 votes

Temporarily changed name so I don't get target banned everytime I'm on a streamers team and they show champ select during bans, and this is also a high quality post.

I am doubtful of your knowledge of how overpowered morgana is when you don't currently play league of legends.

nm1010Apr 3, 20181 votes

I'm sure people are target banning you and aren't just banning a notoriously strong champion in high elo. Looking at your stats and match history I surely wouldn't waste a ban on you. But then again I have no idea how good the nighttime master players actually are, they might just need the free win from banning Singed.

I am doubtful of your knowledge of how overpowered morgana is when you don't currently play league of legends.

I rarely play on my main, I find high diamond - low master players make for some of the worst quality games. Last year I only played 4 days to get to diamond, this year I'll probably do the same. Morgana isn't OP, you one trick a champion that she does well against. She is picked in the LCS because she counters the current meta

Braum TahmKench Alistar Thresh

All were picked in the NA play offs, all do poorly into Morgana.

MalzaApr 3, 20181 votes

In my last 20 games there were four 4v5s, multiple inters, and practically none winning bot lanes (of those games I lost lane in under 25%). Even with that, I am still a higher rank than any player who regularly posts on this forum.

There are three master/challenger players total who permaban singed and I avoid queueing into them. It is not a coincidence that over half the time if I am on Sneaky’s or Tyler1’s streams with my old name the other team bans singed.

I’ve been consistently one of the top 3/4 best singed players on NA for the last four years so it shouldn’t be surprising that people try to target ban me. Any other singed main in masters+ has had the same experience with target bans.

Singed being “notoriously strong” in high elo is also just factually inaccurate. This is the first season he has been kind of viable in high elo, and as the meta is shaping out he is falling off fast and hard.

Singed is outscaled by virtually every single top laner in the game besides pantheon as well as there being a lot of champions in the meta currently (ryze, kaisa, morgana, tahm kench, leblanc, anivia) that make his normally strong mid game unfunctional.

nm1010Apr 3, 20181 votes

In my last 20 games there were four 4v5s, multiple inters, and practically none winning bot lanes (of those games I lost lane in under 25%). Even with that, I am still a higher rank than any player who regularly posts on this forum.

I believe you, pretty much the same reason I specially avoid playing in that elo. Game quality is pretty much dog shit at that level. As for the higher rank part, sorry bud there are a few challengers hanging around with multiple masters as well. Poske being the most recent one I've seen, whom is also a great example of rank =/= right.

There are three master/challenger players total who permaban singed and I avoid queueing into them. It is not a coincidence that over half the time if I am on Sneaky’s or Tyler1’s streams with my old name the other team bans singed.

Your stats aren't really impressive, that is why I said I wouldn't ban it. Normally there is a plethora of better bans available in a lobby, especially if someone is taking the time to ghost.

I’ve been consistently one of the top 3/4 best singed players on NA for the last four years so it shouldn’t be surprising that people try to target ban me. Any other singed main in masters+ has had the same experience with target bans.

See above.

Singed being “notoriously strong” in high elo is also just factually inaccurate. This is the first season he has been kind of viable in high elo, and as the meta is shaping out he is falling off fast and hard.

Yes this is the first season, doesn't change the fact that he has hovered between a 52%-55% win rate in Diamond+ this season with a moderate pick rate.

Singed is outscaled by virtually every single top laner in the game besides pantheon as well as there being a lot of champions in the meta currently (ryze, kaisa, morgana, tahm kench, leblanc, anivia) that make his normally strong mid game unfunctional.

I'll just assume this is exaggerated, but if it isn't then god help us when we see Singed's win rate in a favorable meta.

MalzaApr 3, 20181 votes

Whether you would ban or not doesn’t change what ppl do, my short term stats were pretty good before the loss streaks. I was at around +~17-20 wins in a week with 4.5-5 KDA for those games

WR doesn’t mean anything in masters/challenger. Most champions have people who play them who are higher rank than the highest rank singed main on NA.

Last point isn’t really exaggerated, but with manaflow band singed might be allowed to play the game before his first back so he could be much stronger next patch (and snowball/influence the game before those picks matter much).

A real favorable meta will likely never happen for singed due to the nature of being one of the easiest to counter champions in the game.

Basically, are any of: Gangplank, Fiora (with conq), Kennen, Brand, Malzahar, Anivia, Ryze, Leblanc, Cassio, Tahm, Morgana, Xayah, Kaisa, Ezreal on the enemy team? Then it is not a good game to pick singed.