Skip to 6:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNXWzf6wJU
How is this balanced in any way shape or form he gets caught out he should be dead he deserves to be dead but then he kills their entire team with ardent censor and locket. Even if he was 20/0 it would still be beyond bullshit
FlaminMoe16 votesYou forgot to mention your main source of damage that fight, kalista, was polymorphed and THEN twitch got lulu R E locket/ censer. I'm not saying its not frustrating, but I feel thats important to mention.
Rainfall12 votesits not twitch thats op its lulu that made him tankier than your gragas.
Dr Poro4 votesIt's a combination of both, really. If ADCs didn't do that much damage, then being a bit tankier wouldn't be that broken. Or if ADCs didn't get that tanky by censer supports, doing that much DPS wouldn't be that broken. Hopefully the ardent censer nerf will be enough to balane these AA DPS champs.
Fisher No Chains4 votesYeah because Twitch is completely fine, balanced and healthy right now.
ModAcademy Kayn3 votesHe never said that. All he's saying that Twitch is not singe-handily responsible for what happened.
Fisher No Chains2 votesits not twitch thats op
So, what does the line above mean?
I suppose it's something like "it's not about Twitch being overpowered".
ModAcademy Kayn2 votesIt's not single handily about him being overpowered. Regardless of that fact, Lulu did a great deal in that scenario, so to imply that Twitch being Overpowered is the sole reason for what happened, is just wrong.
yesnobanana10 voteshow to get free upvotes in 3 simple steps:
1.post a post complaining about ardent censor. 2.??? 3.profit
PloxBox9 votesThis just in, Hyper Carry who scales very well into late does well.
Next up, water is wet and the sky is blue. Back to you, Tom.
EDIT: Support did what a support is supposed to do.
BoilTheOil42 votesso if an adc scales well they should be able to tank 3 members of the enemy team while being cced and then kill them in 3 seconds
skyskee00847 votesLMAO.
If a 15/5 Illaoi/Darius did that to a team then no one would say shit.
He was being babysat by a fricken Lulu as well.
Let's analyze this:
Full tank Rakan + Full tank gragas go in. Lulu instantly polymorphs Kalista AKA no real damage is being applied. If you see twitch he's getting MELTED like shit right before Kalista gets polymorphed.
From there a twitch with TRIPLE CRIT and a BF sword AND last whisp melts through people with NO SIGNIFICANT ARMOUR ITEMS. Neither have TABIS either.
BONUS: Gragas barrel made Ori miss her ball aka she did jack shit damage to him (no ulti either). If she had cough Zhonyas cough she could've repositioned the ball and killed him.
Just downvote me already. I know reasoning and logic isn't taken well on boards.
Executioner3 votesI upvoted you for your truthful thinking, I also about to type this out when I saw your post. Then I didn't need to do anything.
kargish13 votesAnd now here's something else to consider.
Because of 
ultimate, he actually healed more than the enemy could damage him. And the worst part is he hadn't bought a single lifesteal item. He just applied ardent to all of them (his ult AA does on-hit/LS to everyone) and then healed their damage, while standing completely still. This guy could practically have taken his hands off his keyboard after having pressed R+RMB.
Executioner4 votesPretty sad fact too, that only ardent gave him all that lifesteal.
Quepha4 voteshe actually healed more than the enemy could damage him.
he could only outheal gragas+rakan's damage which is expected of a late game adc against two high utility tanks whose damage falls off heavily. the only time he was taking damage from kalista was while he was initially cc'd, and he never takes any spell damage from orianna
WrÆth7 votesI'm all for opinion, but It's literally gotten to the point where people just blindly follow this ADC hate train and run a witch hunt on anyone who doesn't agree with them. And sure, that's how these boards mainly are. But I wish people actually posted stuff that was insightful and not just "adc is op pls nerf". And I mean actual insight. Not "Twitch has rengar's ultimate on a basic ability, Twitch is broken, Twitch is a ranged rengar".
Props.
Auroramancer1 votesBeat me to it. GJ on the analysis.
I don't even like Twitch, but if the OP wants to complain about Twitch, then he should at least aim above the belt in order to make his complaint valid.
Zero Skill Tank1 votesIf a 15/5 Illaoi/Darius
That. Nobody would say a word if ANY 15-5 champion went 1-4 and with a bit of luck won it. And Twitch wasn't even alone there.
Twitch is way too strong indeed, but that thread shows nothing, except for how absurd marksmen hate is on NA boards.
Squey1 votesbecause Illaoi and Darius have counterplay mechanics. They are also tanky enough to hopefully survive alittle cc to get some heals off. A twitch should die alot quicker, heal alot less with those items, and be required to do more then R+ right click. Twitch does not have counterplay mechanics. Only counter play is in Items. Counter building him and 5 man diving him bot to prevent him from getting his items.
PloxBox10 votesYes. That is what a carry does: Carry the game. And again, a support did what they were supposed to do: Support and keep people alive long enough to do their thing.
As mentioned below me:
Two full tanks and one damage dealer versus a Hyper carry and a support. Instant CC of the enemy carry, followed by Twitch murdering her. Enemy Gragas inadvertently helping the Twitch by knocking him away from the AP carry. Twitch murders the AP carry. By this point, the rest of Twitch's team has showed up (Or at least most of them.). Cleans up the rest of them.
Verdict: Someone should have bought Thornmail.
Shahamut3 votesso if an adc scales well they should be able to tank 3 members of the enemy team while being cced and then kill them in 3 seconds
relax man... his team helped him through all of that. And if I watch it again, Id bet he wasnt the solo focus of the enemy team either.
Enemy team misplayed, Tobias and his team didnt.
Shablagoo2 votesI dont get why ppl always complain about yas and fiora yet twitch and adc's being out of control is fine
r4ndomkill1 votesis this sarcasm?
Shablagoo1 votesNot really they are on the same level except fiora and yas actually need to use their abilites
DunkinNoobs8 votesA support, a tank, and a low damage adc can't burst down an adc fast enough. Nothing to see here folks. Censer is busted is so is Twitch but nothing unreasonable happened here.
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesExcept twitch sits on a 55%+ winrate even before ardent cancer.
Dr Dormidon7 votesThat was teamplay!!! They just got outplayed!11 Would say typical adc main
GayFluffyUnicorn2 voteswell read the comments justifiying that bullshit. He literally stands still and rightclicks and wins 2v5.
Dr Dormidon1 voteswell read the comments justifiying that bullshit. He literally stands still and rightclicks and wins 2v5.
So they had to retreat and give up on trying to kill him!11
Pinkaj6 votesIt's the Lulu, I've done this to a couple twitches in this game :P
Dr Poro5 votesJanna is my main support and I find it funny that it took this long for the majority to find out how OP ardent censer is. I've been rushing it first for many months. And yes, it should get nerfed. I hate it when my pocket pick becomes meta (same with trist, although a nerfed censer might bring her a bit in line, I still think she deserves a small nerf along with twitch and draven.)
HaIlMonitor1 votesTrist is only strong because all of the lane bullies got nerfed.
Raoul5 votespretty easy:
The only real source of damage in this fight that could be dangerous for Twitch was Kalista.
If you look closely, you see that Lulu Polymorphed Kalista right at the beginning and Twitch took her out first. Orianna came in, but she didnt do anything, because she missed her ball (thanks to gragas by the way, who knocked twitch away), and since Twitch is an ADC who deals burst damage that makes Oriannas Ultimate jealous with every auto attack, she didnt live long enough for a second try.
So what was left? A Rakan, who has absolutely 0 dmg and a full tank gragas, also barely any damage.
That was plain and simple a fed ADC abusing that the class is broken AF.
10 fps3 votesYeah I'm pretty sure if Oriana landed her stuff Twitch would be dead.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesTwitch was shielded and given a lot of help, and the enemy team was far behind.
It's no different than Lulu ulting a Zed and him getting a Penta.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesExcept zed wouldn't make a penta there LOL. He would just die.
Son of Ur3 votesI want to be downvote too! Ardent Censor is fine as is! Weeeeee!!!!
Bârd3 votesThis might look like a good catch, but it's really not. When Rakan engages, he has almost no damage to follow up.
Grag is a tank, and Rakan is support, so they don't do shit. Kalista takes too long to do her damage. GP could provide damage, but he's dead. Ori could also provide damage, but she's a mile away when the fight starts.
There are a myriad of ways they could've improved the play that would have resulted in Twitch dying.
They got greedy, made a few misplays, and were heavily punished.
General Esdeath 2 votesWhat did you expect? Riot would never let the ADC role become anything more than essential every game. Wouldn't want any champ 
or role cough assassins cough to be useless or anything now would we?
GGLineaR2 votesJust be sure to remember, the issue here is Ardent Censer. That item is beyond overloaded, and has been breaking Tristana and Twitch.
#NerfArdentCenser2017
Pale Pirate2 votesHe was 15/5. Lulu was 0/6/22. Given that it is a 2 vs 3 (orianna missed everything), with Kalista, the only serious damage source polymorphed, it only makes sense that they would lose the fight against their overfed opponents.
Thilmer2 votesNow explain me again why mages must rely on combos and skillshots to "compensate their high burst damage with a high skillcap", while ADCs can do this kind of 1 vs 4 bullshit by rigth clicking on the enemies.
Musch eskil, so autplayed, wow. [slayer-jinx-unamused]
Rigth now the average ADC has the resistance of an off-tank while also doing bps damage (BPS: Burst Per Second). And it has been like this for half the season.
DeusVult1 votesHe wasnt "caught out" The Fiora had less movespeed than him, tunneled on him, and his Lulu gave him every skill and hit every skillshot to keep him alive. This wouldnt happen with any champ but GP. He has the lulu shield, and is running away from Fiora, and Lulu hits her with the glitterlance slow, then Tobias eats an orange, lands 2 crits with 
, then runs away and gets another lulu shield, dodges the Fiora W, and hits her with a Q for the kill. Thats against a Fiora that is building 0 tank stats outside the health of a black cleaver.
warpenguin5551 votesThats fucking awful.
LemurMonster1 votesGot thumbs down for saying its really not twitch that's really the problem.. Yeah sure, he is petty strong but it's mainly the support items. This video shows it clearly.
Dengeden1 votesWelcome to the world of fed ADCs, been this way since S2.
Synnx71 votesbecause dmg creep press right click = enemy/enemies dead = " im so pro, muh skills"
RacoonHunter1 votesWelcome to riot and their laziness to look at items such as ardent. instead they want everyone to get pissed off because they get cced once, die before they can even hit qss or a defensive item, and have the game end at 20 minutes
OyddAWqJ5r1 votesTo be fair Twitch was 15/5 prior to this. If you are that far ahead you deserve to be a monster, especially alongside a fed support.
