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No room for casual play in League of Legends. You are forced to commit to LoL or Uninstall

Ancient League··54 votes·17,321 views

Been playing Video/Computer games for over 30 years and LoL for over 5 years. I used to commit 2-3 hours a day to play to attempt to get a win in a Match made game. if I got a win my first game then I play an other game to even things out. I can only seem to win against bot games now. Your match making process constantly over estimates my skill level and I have not a chance to win anymore. If you look at my life time win/loss you can easily see what I am talking about. I have won 2 games in the past 20 and 1 has been a bot game. I haven't the time to learn all the changes Riot applies to the game in order to have a chance at a victory. Every game except ranked is plagued with smurfs that have no points in a champion yet are ubber strong with them. Ranked is too competitive and the people there blame each other for things like ward placement.

So what is an old man to do when he just wants to have fun at having a chance at a game he would like to play once in a while?

I have put alot of cash into the game but can never see myself paying any more for a game that gives out nothing but grief.

Zilean Computer gaming since 1979 (Atari 400 Computer w/Star Raiders) Yes I call myself "Ancient" for that reason :)

62 Comments

Koiyaki39 votes

I mean there is room for casual play, but like with every online game, a group of friends makes the experience better, whether ur win or lose.

Legit i monkey around with my low elo friends all the time in norms. Do we lose alot? Ye. Do we laugh so hard till we cry cuz someone forgot that jhin had more than one shot on his ult? Ye. Do we spam ping our friend who flashes into a wall. Ye. Do we completely forget that were winning a game to discuss the implication of micheal bay making a dora movie, and wondering when Boots will actually start wearing boots, thus throwing like the animals we are. Heck yes.

Its all down to how you look at it. But meh thats just me :3

Kai Guy7 votes

^. 5 man top lane to inhibit rush. All tanks All supports. All ADC All displacement. Blitzcrank Thresh Gragas Alistar Poppy Trap hell. Teemo Jhin Nidalee Caitlyn

Lots of fun you can have with friends.

church arson1 votes

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^. 5 man top lane to inhibit rush. All tanks All supports. All ADC All displacement. Blitzcrank Thresh Gragas Alistar Poppy Trap hell. Teemo Jhin Nidalee Caitlyn

Lots of fun you can have with friends.

This is great advice.

It's so much fun, plus a 5 man tank team works better than you would think.

3TWarrior1 votes

don't forget the classic: three lives carry team with all champions having guardian angel and passives or abilities that allow you to revive: Aatrox Anivia Zilean Zac ...I think old yorick used to be on this list...I can't find any others that have a real revive: Yorick

other candidates include: KogMaw Kindred Mordekaiser Sion Karthus Shaco Tryndamere Volibear Yuumi DrMundo

Kai Guy1 votes

Aatrox Zilean Kindred Tryndamere Taric

Try and kill us comp.

3TWarrior1 votes

funny thing is, that's actually a viable team with someone for every position...and a dangerous one at that

thefatlazycat1 votes

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I mean there is room for casual play, but like with every online game, a group of frienda makes the experience better, whether ur win or lose.

Legit i monkey around with ny low elo friends all the time in norma. Do we lose alot? Ye. Do we laugh so hard till we cry cuz someone forgo that jhin had more than one shot on his ult? Ye. Do we spam ping our friend who flashes into a wall. Ye. Do we completely forget that were winning a gain to discuss the implication of micheal bay making a dora movind, and wondering when Boots will actually atart wearing boots, thus throwing like the animals we are. Heck yes.

Its all down to how you look at it. But meh thats just me :3

this is the best way to play league, hands down

Spicy Rice1 votes

This, so much.

I play 5 mans with my friends who either

A. DGAF

or

B. Aren't very skilled at the game.

No matter what, I have always had a good time

mack911212 votes

I would suggest playing aram untill your mechanics improve

Ambitious Minnow10 votes

Are any of you even old enough to be lecturing this man about his gaining attitude? Many of you skipped the core of his post. He's already played this game many times, this is another person not even complaining that they are too good for their rank, this is another person complaining MM gives them matches put of their league.

The MMR system is stupidly broken, Elo system is designed for one unit vs. one other unit, not measuring individuals in team performance. It's a fact.

Hotarµ5 votes

I'm a casual player. I've played ranked maybe once or twice, I don't even know if I finished my placements.

Yes, casual players still have a place in League. When I'm not working I spend good chunks of free-time on League with friends and we have a blast. Norms, bots, customs, ARAMs, TT, and even the occasional RGM can still be great fun with friends.

Ranked is too competitive and the people there blame each other for things like ward placement.

While I don't agree with certain people's mentalities, ranked is meant to be a more serious environment and it should be expected that casual players may have a rough time. It's a ranked competitive ladder, after all.

So what is an old man to do when he just wants to have fun at having a chance at a game he would like to play once in a while?

Play the game to have fun, don't focus on winning, play with friends. League of Legends can still be fun, especially with friends (just like every game) when you do really stupid team comps.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Maybe personal favorite way is to name yourself after your favorite champion and the skin you want but will never get >:T

Nea1045 votes

It's not totally like that. There are many "casual" players, who usually are less skilled than who actually commits to the game. And still, games are basically always a disgusting one-sided fiesta, indeed.

Point is: why if my skills are 4/10, their matchmaking doesn't match me with and against other 4/10 (on average) players?

One game their team is 7/10 and mine 2/10, another game it's the opposite. That's so flawed or, probably, rigged.

TheXXXorcist3 votes

Recommend you mute all and just play, win or lose

Sebastit7d3 votes

I've said this multiple times across different posts, the problem is the competitive mentality that has been ingrained in the playerbase over the years due to Esports becoming so popular, everyone wants to pretend they're pros so they learn every aspect of the game and most people just play meta things and also keep up with it. All of that on top of everyone expecting others to play perfectly as they imagine and then flaming if it doesn't go how they planned makes it such a toxic environment for someone that doesn't have much time to play or someone that hasn't learned the game yet, so i agree with OP in how the experience for someone casual could be hindered.

Original Sin3 votes

play aram. casual mode

Mr Dalloway3 votes

If you are casual just play ARAM. That's what I do.

ˉºªˉºªˉºªˉºªˉºªˉ3 votes

For all the people that suggest to this man that playing with friends is going to make it better, picking all troll team comps can be fun and so on: I myself got banned from the game in a game where we were full premades and all of us were inting and running down under turrets. No one got banned except me. So still try to have fun without playing the game in other way, because as a riot support member replied :,, the game is supposed to be played in a way" and we were,, ruining the experience" or something like that. Cannot remember how exactly he wrote that, because I stopped playing right after that and to this day I am glad I did.

Stupafly1 votes

This is why i think riot ignores the boards. There are SO many people that claim to have quit but spend their time roaming the boards throwing shade at the game.

People need to move on

church arson1 votes

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This is why i think riot ignores the boards. There are SO many people that claim to have quit but spend their time roaming the boards throwing shade at the game.

People need to move on

Yes people do need to move on, but the thing that this dude experienced is quite bizarre.

On a side note, roaming the boards to learn about players' recent experiences is valid as hell. Also, if the game is going to a better place sometime, dude should be able to learn the news too :)

The Ecdysiast2 votes

Well... yeah, pretty much. If you don't have someone teaching you the game you're gonna have a bad time.

Unfortunately their tutorial covers only the things that would be obvious at first glance. For the more in-depth information you'll have to search around youtube.

If you do want to keep playing, find someone who's fairly decent so they can coach you at the same time as playing. And when looking for guides try to go for the ones catered to each position rather than each champion.

Spiçy2 votes

If you want casual, it's coop vs AI and special game modes, like the PvE ones.

Some regions, notably Korea, completely removed normal games. Only ranked. Normals attract trolls which seep into rank play.

Syrile2 votes

Honestly, as long as you are playing to win and not actively trolling, playing casually is not a problem at all. If someone flames you, just ignore them or mute them or whatever else.

But yeah.. the meta that has been created gives semi-casual players a huge benefit (the ones with naturally good twitch-reflexes) while punishing those that do not have those reflexes or have gotten slower over time. Tactical play is almost entirely gone and any time a new tactic is discovered, Riot guts it.

darkestsoul12 votes

Hey bud, you can add me and you can try playing with my group. We play normals and customs to have fun all the time. Skill isnt something we care about at all. Feel free to throw me an add if you want to give league one more shot. :)

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] IGN: darkestsoul1

Naono2 votes

I once loss like 20games in row in Aram. Mann, it felt bad lol.

There's still casual play. I never played with my league friends due to circumstances. But I played Aram and bots mainly.

I'll say stay away from ranked if you want casual. If you want casual in ranked play one rank game a day... lol... So you won't suffer too much from the horrible matchmaking.

Try to find some others who seek kind of game play you do. There's already few in this thread. They might be willing to give some pointers as well. I have met a few who helped me learn, there was one in particular, really friendly and causal. 😊

ShakeNBakeUK2 votes

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Been playing Video/Computer games for over 30 years and LoL for over 5 years. I used to commit 2-3 hours a day to play to attempt to get a win in a Match made game. if I got a win my first game then I play an other game to even things out. I can only seem to win against bot games now. Your match making process constantly over estimates my skill level and I have not a chance to win anymore. If you look at my life time win/loss you can easily see what I am talking about. I have won 2 games in the past 20 and 1 has been a bot game. I haven't the time to learn all the changes Riot applies to the game in order to have a chance at a victory. Every game except ranked is plagued with smurfs that have no points in a champion yet are ubber strong with them. Ranked is too competitive and the people there blame each other for things like ward placement.

So what is an old man to do when he just wants to have fun at having a chance at a game he would like to play once in a while?

I have put alot of cash into the game but can never see myself paying any more for a game that gives out nothing but grief.

Zilean Computer gaming since 1979 (Atari 400 Computer w/Star Raiders) Yes I call myself "Ancient" for that reason :)

there is this game called Heroes of the Storm, you may wish to look in to it ^_^

Plain Fries2 votes

Leave the game man, there are better mobas now. League is way past its prime.

Cavesloth1 votes

For someone who stop playing league more than year ago and hasn't really been paying attention to other mobas, what are they? Are they like League used to be before Riot shit the bed hard with season 8 and RR?

FSRER2 votes

And what do you earn for commiting to competitive League? All kinds of diseases happen to you and your family after you get 1 0/5 adc at platinum elo....Yeah, really liking playing competitively

Hammermancer1 votes

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And what do you earn for commiting to competitive League? All kinds of diseases happen to you and your family after you get 1 0/5 adc at platinum elo....Yeah, really liking playing competitively

Not only does my family now all have bubonic plague, but also my top laner went adc too so I have 2 0/6 adcs :(

BigFBear2 votes

If you play 2-3 hours(!!) a day you aren't a casual player. You have 5 years of experience. Play ranked for God's sake. If you play ranked you will get in an Elo you belong and you can play against players on your skill level and then you can have fun again.

I don't understand why someone who plays lol for 5 years 2-3 hours a day is fearing ranked....

Hammermancer2 votes

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If you play 2-3 hours(!!) a day you aren't a casual player. You have 5 years of experience. Play ranked for God's sake. If you play ranked you will get in an Elo you belong and you can play against players on your skill level and then you can have fun again.

I don't understand why someone who plays lol for 5 years 2-3 hours a day is fearing ranked....

Because ranked is hyper fucking toxic

it's why i spend most of my time in norms.

Like let's say i want to do a fun cheese build. Even if I'm going 15/2 I'm going to get allcapsed by some overly angry support or jungler who cares more about what I'm building then what the enemy is building

I've had people spam ping me going QSS on vayne before even though I was against an All AP+CC enemy team

Naalith1 votes

Ranked is a dumpster fire. I've been playing for years and only use ranked to get Victorious skins and very occasionally play it.

I was in a series the last few months so I figured I'd finish them yesterday. First game my team is 0/4 at 4 minutes. Second game we have a raging Irelia crying to "go next" when everyone but her is winning and she throws. Third game, after my series failed, was actually a real loss. 4th game the enemy team had a 20% winrate Hecarim, so we won. 5th game was actually a real win.

Ranked is toxic, unfun, and everyone thinks they are gods and cry at the slightest inconvenience. I could hit diamond but after 5 games or so I always put down the game mode for months, and just go back to normals where it's possible to have fun even though i play against diamonds, masters, and grandmasters all day.

Hammermancer2 votes

I'm not as old as you but I'm nearing 30

my friends and I fuck around way too much, one of my buddies and I are proud of our (Unintentional) 30% winrate

It definitely has nothing to do with him throwing me under towers as Tahm kench then spamming emotes on me... which TOTALLY can't end with me Kali ulting him back under the tower

anyways i've said too much, the world can't know about the heroic struggle i face keeping the demon at bay

so if you want to joing add me I'll be on tonight

Stupafly1 votes

How do you Kali ult him under the tower? Doesn't the person being picked up control where they land? Is he throwing himself to his death under the tower?

I'd be pissed if this was my botlane

Hammermancer1 votes

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How do you Kali ult him under the tower? Doesn't the person being picked up control where they land? Is he throwing himself to his death under the tower?

With my amazing flash between enemies technique

I'd be pissed if this was my botlane

We run in a 5 man, two of us are iron 4 and one is a plat smurf who gets a kick out of the spectacle

Usually I try to get one of the irons to support me instead as he's a yuumi main and actually has a long record of s/a games so I can just play my jayce as an 'adc' and get bonus stats effectively (Plus the synergy is annoying)

my buddy the TK always kinda starts it

anways we do actually try to win we're just all having a good time while doing it and we don't gripe over a loss, plus we do it in norms not ranked so we'll often wind up against other weirdo duos, my favorite so far was facing off against a yasuo riven double m7 vs skins lane... that was a spectacle (And actually effective in a way)

DWT123452 votes

Scrapping Nexus Blitz was a mistake.

5050BS2 votes

Want to have fun? Dont play LOL.

OR

Spend the time to learn the game and yes it takes a lot to really understand how it works.

Learning Champ Mechanics is easier then game Macro. But Macro will get you farther I think. SOOO many people dont know macro at all. Its frustrating.

ReySolomon1 votes

Can I ask you something?

How old are you?

Morbys1 votes

You can always play normals, winning doesn't matter, and yes, ranked atm is a pile of hot garbage. The changes to the game have created the power creep into a power steamroll, the game doesnt require skill and games are decided in the first 5-10mins. Too many broken champs that can't all be banned, have about 10 viable champs that just steamroll everyone out of 100+ champs.

Vonyalo1 votes

All problems of this game take their roots from its bad game design (matchmaking is not an exception): players that can only play one role (or even worse, one champion) getting autofilled, poor itemization design, extreme snowballing etc... Game design is not something you can easily change. So... you either get used to it or don't play at all.

Cavesloth1 votes

Don't waste your time with League, find something that's actually fun. League will only get worse with Riot at the helm. I quit League more than a year ago and it's been great for my mental health and my real life relationships. I still game but since my comps a toaster I can't do well in most FPS, but playing with my friends is still fun.

Stupafly1 votes

If league will only get worse with riot at the helm.... How did it become such a huge game when it ONLY gets worse when riot is in charge.

I know riot fucks up alot but this imposed cynicism isn't helping anyone

Ambitious Minnow4 votes

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If league will only get worse with riot at the helm.... How did it become such a huge game when it ONLY gets worse when riot is in charge.

I know riot fucks up alot but this imposed cynicism isn't helping anyone

Riot brought LoL some decent success providing a game people wanted,, then sold out to Tencent, which is 100% profit driven. Tencent had been doing a lot of advertising for LoL in last few years, bringing more players bet definitely pushing the game in a different direction.

Cavesloth2 votes

Because the people who made it huge cashed out long ago and whats left is a joke that only cares about making as much money as fast and hard as possible. They could give a shit that IP to BE changes dicked over the veteran players that made them huge, they couldn't give a flying fart that half the champ remakes they've done recently alienate the people who actually played the champion, or that they took the entire game in a whole different direction making the whole game the worst parts of URF (with none of the fun bits) in season 8. So yeah, lets give THOSE people the benefit of the doubt. I can't roll my eyes hard enough lols.

I come here periodically just to remind myself why I quit playing league like cyberstalking your ex to see much their life sucks without you (and occasionally throw gas on the fire), and goddamn I'm never disappointed. These forums are slowly dying just like game itself, and I've been around long enough to recognize when a game is dying and thanks to the big player base they started with I should be able to enjoy this for years.

CoolKnightST1 votes

I think your better off with creating a new account. Their will be smurf add the start but your mmr is basicly reset and ones you level 30 you will probally be placed in high iron/bronze/low silver and you will be able to play the game again. You can demote yourself so much you want. It's your mmr that only can ballance out smoothly.

What's also worth mentioning ones you have time to play league against you will easy catchup to your old rank.

What I would do is create a smurf, level that one up and play ranked with that one. If you have feeling your getting better again you can away switch to your main and play ranked on a competive level again.

Eleshakai1 votes

I play somewhat casually. Sometimes I have enough free time(like the past week) to play a bit more often, but usually not that much. I do fine for myself.

Hèntaî 1 votes

Wait is that what it is? My teammates commiting so hard that they afk or flame? Dang. Who'da thunk

KamiM1 votes

Well I guess I will uninstall thensummoner 4 MasterYi

dim2a1 votes

My take on this is that league probably did not update your skill estimate yet. I'd guess after you lose another 20-40, you'll get back to where your win is 50/50 (in ranked, norms might take longer). The downside is you're likely to get more feeders/AFKers in that ELO, but it'll be easier to win (since they'd be on enemy team too), so long term your win rate should be 50/50.

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