That is designed from the ground up to fulfill the fantasy of powerful ranged damage from the support role. CC can even take a back seat for this one.
Give the champ incentives to want to be in a duo lane to keep them out of mid
Craft Zeppelin1 votesLike how about an cannon mage in the style of xerath or vel, who can buff allies or link together to gain more massive firepower. Has weak cc and needs a comp to actually peel both adc and support.
KirotheImmortal1 votesThis is a bad support. The only mage carries that are taken sup and work have some form od strong cc or peel. Ie brand.
Ambient Snow1 votesHad to down vote cause you got it completely wrong No one is forcing Mages into support rolls.
the issue is People don't want to play support, they feel its boring and doesn't involve killing, Support means not doing any damage, and focusing on healing or helping your team.
Thus those people who do not want to support will take a AP Mage, Why? because they can then burst, they can then do damage and yea they build 1 ward item after that they can built a AP bursting build and say "i'm warding thus supporting"
Riot knows this, so they try to flow a few ap bursters into a Support stats because making a Actual support character is kind of a waste of time.
look how well Rekan was taken. he's a great support his taunt is pretty awesome his knock up and shield is amazing as well, but no one uses him because they would rather still take, support lux and support morg for damage.
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That is designed from the ground up to fulfill the fantasy of powerful ranged damage from the support role. CC can even take a back seat for this one.
Give the champ incentives to want to be in a duo lane to keep them out of mid
People don't force mages into the support role. That's like saying "if the pieces don't fit, we make them fit."
People take mages support to find out if they work. (or because they already know it works) Riot simply takes the lazefaire approach and balance around the most OP and popular option. (And people just complain about either A) WTF The support does too much damage or B) Stop ruining my main)
But to answer your question, most mage supports don't put CC on the back seat. Champs like Morg and Lux work in the support role is because their CC allows them to serve the role as catchers, similar to thresh or Blitz. (And Zyra was recently defined as a catcher as well) With the main differences being that your have damage scaling. That can be built up if your ahead. But with that CC, your never behind because you can always serve as said catcher. You could even forgo damage in favor of utility items, and still have that CC to be a useful support.
But put that aside, what can you do to a mage to favor the duo lane? I can think of 2 things, either a) give them synergy with your lane partner. or b) give them synergy with multiple targets. The former case I'm not so sure about, since Ally synergy is usually a utility concept. The later case would make damage execelent in the duo lane, that would translate to a lot of team fight power. (Would also make them hated in ARAM) Though in that case, I think Brand already fits that bill pretty well.
KirotheImmortal1 votesMy issue is this.
Someone mentioned that people just want to focus damage. THIS IS RIOTS FAULT. Riot themselves focuses on damage champs and damage in fights. Even sona who is supose to be the buff healer support has more damage then support capabilities. Yes they keep adding items for support but they dont fix the true issue. Medic/buff supports suck. Every time soraka seems game changer she gets smacked with a nerf in some way or another. Lulu just got nerfed because they felt she was too helpful supporting. The only support i see that is true to the term support is thresh. And im sure hes about to get hit hard.
