seriously, in lane with PTA he can dash up to you and chunk you with his Q and double shots from E and Q and then once he gets 
, he can out damage just about anyone if hes not hard CCed considering he can get 4 shots of 8% current Hp in like 2 seconds. Is the only counterplay to CC him or what? what is his counterplay, why is he allowed to do that damage?
fatherdarius2 votesHe's very balanced because:
1 - his abilities are mana-gated 
.
2 - he's in a constant state of emotional turmoil because thresh 
has his wife's soul 
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3 - his dash has a high cooldown 
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4 - his ult only fires in one direction 
.
5 - not all of his abilities scale off of ad (his w, for example) 
.
6 - his dreadlocks are not aerodynamic so they constantly reduce his movement speed 
.
7 - black cleaver isn't as op on him as it once was 
.
8 - his dash can put him in a bad situation, for example if he dashes into veigar's 
stun circle, or if he dashes in front of braum's shield 
.
9 - his dash can can't go through thick walls, only thin walls 
.
10 - he can't spin to win 
.
11 - he can only heal with summoner spells 
, lifesteal 
, or a healing support 
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12 - lifesteal only builds into a few useful items 
.
13 - he has a high skill cap as he's a very mechanical champion you have to press e to dash 
.
14 - he's highly dependent on adc/marksmen items like 
and 
.
15 - he's very gold dependent 
.
16 - only one of his abilities is point'n'click unlike fiddle
, or zed 
.
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Daddy Ants2 votesLucian gold dependent?
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH stop.
He can 1v1 you on Vampiric Scepter.
are gold dependent, not Lucian.
Daddy Ants2 votesAbsolutely nothing is balanced about Lucian.
Feels good selecting Lucian and pressing ban, every game.
charge attack1 votesMana gated, short range = awful scaling. It’s hard to see in this short game meta, but Lucians have often been pretty fed but then 30 mins hit and he’s still worse than any late game ADC.
It’s cause he has no AS/AD steroid and relies on weaving abilities to do damage, and any ability based marksmen falls off hard compared to an auto based one that can use Crit more effectively.
Also his short range makes him really easy to lock down and blow up in a late game 5v5. ~~~~
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Mana gated, short range = awful scaling. It’s hard to see in this short game meta, but Lucians have often been pretty fed but then 30 mins hit and he’s still worse than any late game ADC.
It’s cause he has no AS/AD steroid and relies on weaving abilities to do damage, and any ability based marksmen falls off hard compared to an auto based one that can use Crit more effectively.
Also his short range makes him really easy to lock down and blow up in a late game 5v5. ~~~~
It's more about the player's skill. At full build Lucian still kills a lot of champions, it's all about how well you can dance around without receiving too much damage in a teamfight.
I think once he gets he becomes truly monstrous, because now he is tanky as well and he melts HP, armor and does bonus damage with PTA.
