Garen armor scaling?

Glîtchy··2 votes·458 views

What exactly is with his armor scaling? I was against one just now who literally for THE LONGEST TIME only had Deadman's, yet he tanked SO much damage from my maiden + Trinity + Black Cleaver combo, seriously, wtf is that scaling?

EDIT: not trying to say he's op, just asking why he's SO tanky.

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AR URF1 votes

his w maxed out offers 30 armor and magic resist. It's not op though because compare that too Leona and Poppy who don't even have to farm to get that. .25 armor and mr per minion so a total of 120 cs to get that.

Glîtchy1 votes

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his w maxed out offers 30 armor and magic resist. It's not op though because compare that too Leona and Poppy who don't even have to farm to get that. .25 armor and mr per minion so a total of 120 cs to get that.

Like I said, not trying to say it is, just thinking "why tf is he so hard to kill" really.

AR URF1 votes

That's why I said his w offers 30 armor and mr.

jwebb01131 votes

well he also has his passive which is an insane regen of HP

and he typically builds 2 offensive items and rest tanky

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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well he also has his passive which is an insane regen of HP

and he typically builds 2 offensive items and rest tanky

the regeneration only kicks in at lvl 11, and the passive is deactivated in combat.

it doesnt make garen more tanky in fights.

jwebb01131 votes

yet garen can disengage from a fight hide for a few seconds and regen his health making him having sustain in lane which makes harder to bully from lane and allows him to stack his passive armor /mr making him tanky

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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yet garen can disengage from a fight hide for a few seconds and regen his health making him having sustain in lane which makes harder to bully from lane and allows him to stack his passive armor /mr making him tanky

he has to wait 9 seconds for his passive to ramp up, and then another 20 seconds to regenerate a decent enough amount of health to make it worth, if his opponent doesnt just ignore the passive and lets him regenerate while farming.

early game, his passive doesnt have a large impact. anyone with vamp scepter will already out sustain it.

KoKoboto1 votes

He doesn't need to max W for it. Hell he doesn't even need to put points into it. He just starts stacking resistances when he starts killing stuff.

AR URF1 votes

Right. How is that any different than what I just said?

KoKoboto1 votes

his w maxed out offers 30 armor and magic resist.

he doesn't need to max it or put points into it

AR URF1 votes

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he doesn't need to max it or put points into it

I meant minion maxed.

KoKoboto1 votes

man i can't read your mind

Shuriman Curator1 votes

If he activated W on the initial burst he negated a lot of the damage.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

but the maiden deals magic damage.

Glîtchy1 votes

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but the maiden deals magic damage.

She allows me to deal AD damage equivalent to a percentage of his HP.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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She allows me to deal AD damage equivalent to a percentage of his HP.

thats also magic damage.

Yorick summons The Maiden of the Mist and 2/3/4 Mist Walkers. The Maiden has 700/1500/3000 (+0) Health, deals 10/20/40 (+0) magic damage, and raises Mist Walkers from nearby enemy deaths.When Yorick damages the Maiden's target he will deal 5/7.5/10% of their max Health as bonus magic damage (2 second cooldown).If the Maiden is summoned inside a lane, she will start pushing the lane.

Glîtchy1 votes

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thats also magic damage.

Still doesn't explain how he resists SO much damage

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Still doesn't explain how he resists SO much damage

well, people have explained it.

he probably had his w active, and had some mr stacked. might even have maxed it second, which is a viable option against tough matchups.

the maiden doesnt deal a lot of damage by herself in the first place. most of it comes from giving you these magic damage procs.

did he have merc treads at the time? thats another source of mr that might have helped him.

if i might make a suggestion, just start with item 2033 in lane, and destroy him early on around lvl 2 or lvl 3. all you have to do is summon your ghouls, throw your e on him and activate the potion. if youre lvl 3 and can trap him in your w, youre probably going to kill him.

yorick is one of the few bruisers who wins extended fights against darius early on in lane with his ghouls, since the ghouls deal far more damage than darius bleed. beating garen is nothing for a yorick.

Glîtchy1 votes

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well, people have explained it.

he probably had his w active, and had some mr stacked. might even have maxed it second, which is a viable option against tough matchups.

the maiden doesnt deal a lot of damage by herself in the first place. most of it comes from giving you these magic damage procs.

did he have merc treads at the time? thats another source of mr that might have helped him.

if i might make a suggestion, just start with item 2033 in lane, and destroy him early on around lvl 2 or lvl 3. all you have to do is summon your ghouls, throw your e on him and activate the potion. if youre lvl 3 and can trap him in your w, youre probably going to kill him.

yorick is one of the few bruisers who wins extended fights against darius early on in lane with his ghouls, since the ghouls deal far more damage than darius bleed. beating garen is nothing for a yorick.

I said when he had only Deadman's

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