@Everyone complaining about Ahri.

LunarStrike··6 votes·898 views

Is Her Q doing too much damage? Dodge it.

Is Her W Bursting you down? Stay out of it's range.

Is her E Charming the crap out of you? Stand behind Minions

Is her Ult giving her escapes from ganks? Bait it out.

There's so many ways to counter ahri. If she's Landing her Full combo on you EVERY single time, You're doing something wrong. The thing about ahri is, If she misses even one ability, her damage is reduced by a ton. For an Ahri, it's hard to land a full combo without landing her Charm first. Dodge her Charm, You'll Dodge her Q Easily. She'll have her W and R left. If her R is down, she won't be able to disengage. She'll Press W and do a few hundred damage, You combo her and she's deleted.

TLDR; When in doubt, don't blame the champion.

10 Comments

koshkyra2 votes

Except you cant just bait out ahris R, not even a new ahri player would waste it, and if you're standing behind minions, then that means her charm is currently up and nothing is stopping her from flashing through them and charming you. Ahris will not waste their Q until you have been charmed, so you cannot just "dodge it". You dont know when she will cast her W, so saying "stay out of the range" is just moronic.

SP Dodgecity1 votes

Ahri "Why you hate me summoner?"

You'll..... never.... escape me.... Veigar "MUAHAHAHAH!"

[slayer-jinx-wink] [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Brain Errör 4042 votes

There's so many things wrong with this thread I find it hard to begin an argument. For example, this is what you're arguing:

Xereth has a game breaking bug that makes it literally impossible to win against him? Ban him.

RhiannonRose142 votes

I don't play Ahri but I can absolutely destroy her in lane and I have. And I've witnessed them get destroyed as well. Some people, use that ult for a space breaker between a running champ and themselves. if you lead her to your team thats it. Or for me, i play Kat, and I laugh almost every time she tries to counter pick to me, with the movement speed and the range, most think it's a good idea, you know, he ult can dodge my shunpo, if i shunpo and she predicts it, she can charm me right to her, but I dodge, and I know how to dodge properly where I don't get hurt and end up killing her on most occasions. Like I said, i dont play her, so i'm not like sticking up for my favorite champion here, I personally agree that almost all of her abilities can absolutely 100% be dodged if you're good with YOUR champ.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

People are complaining about her safety, not her damage. It's almost unanimous that her Q movespeed is unneeded and should be removed.

Ravenhale1 votes

I don't play Mid all that often, but I did get to face an Ahri the last time I did. I definitely misjudged the travel distance on her Q (really hurts to get clipped by a max range Q because of the upfront and return true damage you eat almost instantly). It's not like she was spamming it all that often until after 6 when the spell would obliterate my minions shielding me from the rest of her kit. I played defensively so I lost. I don't recall her ever killing me in lane, but getting forced out isn't much better. Fairly certain I gave up first tower.

Nahui1 votes

I'm going to play a part devil's advocate as well as a bit of true feelings here. I'm not a fan of this sort of discussion because all champions are balanced when you simply lay out a counter to every spell.

You can dodge Q, but it's projectile speed makes it difficult to. At max range, sure, but in lane, it's designed as a spell to be able to land most of the time, or else it would be buffed to compensate. The speed allows her to reposition as you dodge to align the rest of her spells whether Q hits or not. Even if it's not a 100-0, it's devastating with only a marginal mana cost to her.

Her W is an all or nothing spell, but it's not a core farming spell. This means that in theory, she should only be hitting W when she's attacking you. If she is hitting W, it's assumed you are in range of it so therefore, you will be hit by it barring extraneous mobility. Flash is not an argument for counterplay for this; the cooldowns don't even remotely align. So there is no staying out of its range because it's only activated when you're in range. If you're in range, it's most likely due to charm, her ult or your own engagement. It's not like Q that you can simply bait, not against any reasonable Ahri anyways.

E, yes. Stand behind minions. However, this nearly guarantees taking a Q. It also has incredible synergy with the rest of her kit, namely the ult. Her ult nullifies the creeps. It's also a great anti-gank tool. Her ult is the ace up her sleeve, but her charm-Q combo gets her out of most situations partly due to CC, partly due to mobility. Ever since losing damage amp, though, charm has been a simple spell and I've got no gripes with a linear, slowish CC.

Ult. This is why Ahri is hated. Everyone has fought linear damage, CC, passive damaging spells (W). But her ult is what makes her such an amazing pick. During her ult, she becomes the single most mobile champion in the game. Even a 45% cdr, max mana kassadin at level 16 can't match her mobility in this state. It's what makes her so versatile and a jack of all trades mid. It's one of the ultimate defensive CDs, one of the ultimate roaming CDs, one of the ultimate pursuit CDs, one of the ultimate damaging CDs as well. The way it's set up is also in a way that doesn't force you to pick one of these options. On a three charge system, you can mix and match various strengths for what seems to be one of the best spells in the game. It can be a defensive cooldown transitioning into a pursuit cooldown, into another defensive and many other combos. I know it sounds like I'm overplaying the ult, but it really is what it is. She's one of those carry champions that has her power backloaded into her ult. The W is decent, situational. Q is good but predictable and decently avoidable. Charm is the same as Q but a little easier to not be hit. But the ult is just a cooldown. There's nearly no counterplay to it when it's off cooldown. You can't zhonyas it, can't stop her from using it aside from CC, the counter to every single champion in league of legends, can't reasonably get away or chase her, etc. When she uses the ult, she becomes just a bit too versatile.

In lane, her ult also nullifies her weaknesses. Her ult prevents minions from being a factor for charm, her ult prevents you from staying out of range of W and her ult prevents you from simply dodging Q. Even if gated by CD, it simply nullifies all the counterplay listed above in your post which isn't often seen in champions.

150 second CD is the only reason she isn't spammed endlessly in games. Early game it's a bit of a cooldown. But the impact that ult single-handedly can make is what pisses people off. She's not OP, to me, in the sense that she hurts the game. She's OP to me in that she almost cannot be a bad pick. Even a marginally competent Ahri player can confidently pick her into most match ups and most comps and do well.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

tfw OP talks crap and gets 5 massive walls of texts

And for one thing, it's how insanely mobile she can be and how slow she can make you look. Her Q shouldn't have MS attached on to it for the lulz.

GetRektGuy1 votes

I agree to Dodge the q but if a Ahri main is shooting the q it is very hard to Dodge it. and maybe Ahri ults in to you its impossible to dodge it (maybe u summoner 4 out*[slayer-jinx-unamused]* )

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