Jungle Morde: The Master of ..........MEDICINE!?!

TheKingofEloHell··35 votes·3,578 views
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I main Mordekaiser. I've always enjoyed theorycrafting him.

In fact 12 patches before Riot made Morde bot a thing- I was already promoting that meta. ( http://gyazo.com/e56d3237727974ca02a3364a6fdd4b59 )

With all of the nerfs to Morde lately and with the fact that Riot still refuses to rebirth his legendary solo lane- I've turned away from the bot lane, (where I as a Morde main am forced to rely on my support's limited knowledge of my kit- let's face it haha, all most people know about Morde is WTF Q OP and WTF DRG GHOST- and there's a lot more that matters for Morde)

So with that being said I have decided to theorycraft Jungle Morde.

Are his ganks really that good?

What can he do that other Jungler's can't do? In fact is there anything at all he can do better?

These are questions that I have to justify.

INVADES

In any game as pretty much any jungler there is always a real possibility of being early or late invaded by the enemy team or just the enemy jungler. Being a weak CC'less jungler like Morde emphasizes this. So I first off suggest informing your teammates or what to expect; ie- if the enemy team has like a LeeSin- ask for late wards around your first buff (around 1:45) so that if and when their jungler comes to cheese you- you have enough time to ping the SOS and your teammates have enough time to come help. Against early invades- like Ali/Blitz support- get into clumped position early so you can turn those aside or even bait them into bad position before swarming them.

Mordekaiser's level one is surprisingly strong but only if you have a teammate beside you fighting in melee range. This takes advantage of the 4 second AOE your W deals as well as the 55-110 drain heal it provides afterward to both you and your teammate depending on the number of enemy champs drained (max 2 targets)

CLEAR TIMES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyfr_GVepZQ

Morde is really powerful in the Jungle after he hits level 3 (3rd camp)

Skill order imo is Q<W<W<E<W or Q < R. W not only allows you to sustain- but it also can be used strategically. This is the best part and I hope you guys will stick around long enough for it. It's pretty savage.

BUILD PATH

Since you no longer get rewarded in terms of gold income for upgrading your machete jungler item into it's next level; (+30 gold per camp) there's no real reward for leaving the jungle to go buy that item unless the stats it will grant you are particularly good on your champ- Like warrior on Vi, or Ward Jumping on Lee, or Devourer in Warwick etc etc.

Sometimes depending on how aggressive their bot/mid lane roaming is and how aggressive their pre 6 jungler is I will leave jungle early to buy ward jungler item to help my team out.

If you're in a passive game where your enemy jungler prefers to farm it out first- you can safely wait till you've got 1250-2250 gold- you will likely be rushing ryalis/boots as Morde always.

Never finish your jungle item unless it's seriously all you have left to buy. It's a noob trap on Morde. None of the jungling items give Morde enough of what he needs EARLY to do what needs to be done. People often use his passive as an excuse to build glass cannon- but if you get CC'd as Morde -you're not casting any spells and will likely die if you do not have some meat on that body. So buff up, get beefy.

EDIT RUNES/masteries: I apologize but it's been really crazy preparing for my 24 hour stream so I forgot this section. For runes you should try to run: x9 Atk DMG red x9 Flat Armor OR Atk Speed Yellow x9 Flat Ap OR Atk Speed Blue x3 AP Quints OR Movement Speed For masteries I favor 12/0/18 https://gyazo.com/5ae5caff0c3e78c95c2e701cddeb2677

SO WHY PLAY MORDE JUNGLE?

A)- Master of Medicine

Why is soraka banned? Because she keeps her teammates alive. All the freaking time. Morde can do the same thing. Don't beleive me? Watch what happens in a game where your teammates have either been educated on how his W works or already know:

Ahri had just been ganked by a roaming Rumble and Malzahar AOE + ignite. She was at less than 100 life. In 40 seconds I have her up to full health and even gave her a blue buff to boot. Call me Dr. Morde.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybtlJbb3VU

Now they say that Soraka- being the best healer in the game- averages about 29k healing in any given game; please take a look at these two screenshots from Jungle Morde:

https://gyazo.com/ffdf1d42446ef1c36d11fa1981ec3b05

https://gyazo.com/60590a26c41a366c61ac246c90f07f4e

(You'll notice that one of my viewers named Jaewonlol mentions how bad losing a minute of exp can be- but I think it's important to realize that not having to leave lane with heals saves about 15 seconds- so we agree to disagree. I'd love to hear your opinion)

B) Master of Objectives

1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyO3Edp1jc

2- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g03ipEiME0k

Morde has always been the best champ in the game at making his team an objective taking force. Because getting his Ghost always led to winning a teamfight provided Morde could stay alive. Since Riot increased the ghost duration- snagging a ghost leads to dragon which leads to bron herald which leads to a tower. All it takes is a proper team comp and pink wards. Both of which I stress and plead for each and every game as a Morde main haha.

DRAWBACKS:

Morde has always relied on his teammates for CC/ENGAGE.

If your teammates pick champs like katarina, olaf, yorrik, etc etc Morde will not be very effective in fights. Morde is not supposed to go in first. If your teammates can support you in champ select like they would for a Yasuo comp- if they can hold your hand in every team fight- and TRUST you to heal them instead of flashing out of W drain range- you will succeed at becoming a force to be reckoned with.

I hope you have enjoyed this thread. If you choose to visit my stream today- we'll be giving out skins and RP prizes all day.

-TheKing 11/30/2015

PS- if you got through this entire thing- I'd like to reward you with a laugh- this next video is loosely related to League- but it's guaranteed to make you guffaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uWPwm5x6KY

31 Comments

Malicious Metal15 votes

Puts on Sunglasses Real Mordekaiser's roll solo, be it Jungle, Mid or Top.

Someone asked me which champion had the best Jungle sustain recently and called me biased when I answered with the HueKaiser. A max rank q drains for 380 health.

Kinda ironic seeing that you only get it for the heal and disregard the so sought after solo DoT damage XD

Chaotic Reks2 votes

i remember HueKaiser jg BEFORE the rework

Mordepool9 votes

I still believe jungle Morde would have been a better direction for a Rework

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

It would have been a pretty brilliant way to fix his "toxic" LANING paterns

Paradise Proxy3 votes

Now THIS is fucking innovation. I'm really tempted to try this now, but I feel like communicating to your team how jungle morde works would be hard.

SlytherinUmbreon2 votes

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I feel like communicating to your team would be hard.

Fixed

DarkLiquidDeath2 votes

Man, this build is really metal.

Penta Penguin2 votes

Thanks for the upcoming nerfs to his W... great. Completely worth.

ironratgage1 votes

Lets go boys! MACE TIME!!! Malphite rock solid

ChaosThief1 votes

Good to see there's more than just MM keeping the solo morde alive.

I have tried it in solo queue games a few times (about 3) and I found I did rather poorly in two of the games but very well in one of them. And this was before I saw any of these posts about jungle morde, I just got curious at one point.

If people know what morde can do it does really turn around the game in a good way, since they can fix his weaknesses and take advantage of his strengths.

Also, the first Gyazo link is not working correctly, you may want to fix that. It's taking the end parenthesis and adding it to the link.

DweIIer1 votes

you dont know anything about morde for how many games you have with him

Mr lnt1 votes

What runes and mastery pages did you use for this? I am very interested in trying this out!

TheKingofEloHell1 votes

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What runes and mastery pages did you use for this? I am very interested in trying this out!

EDIT RUNES/masteries: I apologize but it's been really crazy preparing for my 24 hour stream so I forgot this section. For runes you should try to run: x9 Atk DMG red x9 Flat Armor OR Atk Speed Yellow x9 Flat Ap OR Atk Speed Blue x3 AP Quints OR Movement Speed For masteries I favor 12/0/18 https://gyazo.com/5ae5caff0c3e78c95c2e701cddeb2677

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

If only people knew what his W did....

I can't tell you how many times I've had a low health ally nearby, and I go to ping assistance at a camp and tell them in chat, "Let me heal you with W", and then they sit too far back and help me kill the camp...... THAT'S NOT HOW I HEAL YOU! I really wish people would read his skills :(

Ralanr1 votes

Now that is out of the box.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Nice.

TheKingofEloHell1 votes

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Now that is out of the box.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Nice.

THANKS. join us on stream :D

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Mind if I ask an out of the box question about Mordekaiser & the recently changed item 3146 ? I am by no means a Morde main. Though I do enjoy playing him very much! I just wish to ask (and give my own crazy sounding reasons) about these two together.

TheKingofEloHell1 votes

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Mind if I ask an out of the box question about Mordekaiser & the recently changed item 3146 ? I am by no means a Morde main. Though I do enjoy playing him very much! I just wish to ask (and give my own crazy sounding reasons) about these two together.

It used to be good. Then it became obsolete and now it's slowly creeping back into usefulness. It's by no means better than Rylais into HG- but it's OK. Just not most optimal. Gunblade has always been a solo lane item- really god for top- but morde's solo lane is too weak for top atm.

Malicious Metal1 votes

Have to aggree with you on this one. Morde top does work but it's often not worth the effort if you could get the same results without actively handicapping yourself.

Gunblade is a pretty solid item though, especially solo and the sustaindoes scale well into late game coupled with a SV and Sterak's you'll be nearly invincible.

Still, jungle morde is way less risky and the look on your teammates' faces when you heal them better than soraka is priceless.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Thanks for the info. But I wanted to ask about its new passive changes and your opinion on it. I have used it OFTEN on Malzahar due to its synergy with his Voidlings and helping him as well. But besides that, with the recent changes it now heals of ALL damage dealt by the same amount, be it magic, physical, or even true damage. This includes damage dealt by Malzahar's Voidlings. With that said, I recently thought about it working with Mordekaiser and his Ultimate Ghosts, be it the helpless enemy Marksmen or the Dragon Ghost. By what I have read and experienced it should now heal of THEIR attacks as well. This what I wanted your opinion and thoughts on. Thank you so much for answering this question. I really do like playing Mordekaiser I just have trouble trying to get used to a good amount of different champions that I feel comfortable with in more then just one lane. I just have a large amount of champions that I own and, due to how I am, I like to try and get the most out EVERYTHING in their respective kits. I am unranked (for now) but thinking outside the box is what I do and enjoy.

Penta Penguin1 votes

Do you build Heart of Gold on him?

Malicious Metal1 votes

A bit off topic but what's your favorite Mordekaiser skin? ^^

TheKingofEloHell1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g1lE0atf,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-12-01T09:06:29.601+0000)

A bit off topic but what's your favorite Mordekaiser skin? ^^

Dragon Knight

Malicious Metal1 votes

Your taste in skins is as refined as your choice of main

Bijorn1 votes

I will have to give Jungle Mord a try then. I have been trying to find a place for Mord in this preseason but it is hard to. Jungle might be the way to go depending on team comp.

Pentakill Mord is my favorite, im surprised how few people use it besides myself lol

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

I WANNA KNOW HOW YOU GOT ALL THAT HEALTH BACK. Hax -Lux and Fiora

TheKingofEloHell3 votes

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I WANNA KNOW HOW YOU GOT ALL THAT HEALTH BACK. Hax -Lux and Fiora xD

Jotunheimr1 votes

I did Morde jungle before, and had a blast.

Than I did it in a ranked game and my team refused to leash me; I kept dying to Red buff. :(

Anyways, I agree, I wish people knew about w heal; I try to heal allies, and noone listens.

On another note, last week I had a troll who tried to steal my cs and feed in my lane. My exp passive, timing of reactivate damage, and e negated his cs thievery. When he tried to feed, I healed with w, and killed the enemy before the feeding jungler could die. Huehuehue For the record, the guy was mad at me for destroying him constanly when I picked Olaf into his Warwick.

Mordekiaser, the Anti-Rage-Troll champion and Undead Medicine Doctor HUEHUEHUE

They should make a Mordekaiser MD skin huehue

TheKingofEloHell2 votes

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I did Morde jungle before, and had a blast.

Than I did it in a ranked game and my team refused to leash me; I kept dying to Red buff. :(

Anyways, I agree, I wish people knew about w heal; I try to heal allies, and noone listens.

On another note, last week I had a troll who tried to steal my cs and feed in my lane. My exp passive, timing of reactivate damage, and e negated his cs thievery. When he tried to feed, I healed with w, and killed the enemy before the feeding jungler could die. Huehuehue For the record, the guy was mad at me for destroying him constanly when I picked Olaf into his Warwick.

Mordekiaser, the Anti-Rage-Troll champion and Undead Medicine Doctor HUEHUEHUE

They should make a Mordekaiser MD skin huehue

I actually have a video closely related to this. Will edit and upload this week jsut for you. Be sure to follow my stream so I can link you.

Jotunheimr1 votes

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I actually have a video closely related to this. Will edit and upload this week jsut for you. Be sure to follow my stream so I can link you.

Very cool. Off topic, your name, King of Elo Hell(OP btw), does it mean you rule over all players and keep them in the Tarturus of Elo Hell, or you just stomp everyone forever with your reign?

Huehuehue

Jotunheimr1 votes

I did Devourer, Nashors, guinsoos, Rylias and Liandrys with Swifty boots, it was so damn funny. AS mixed damage cdr Mord rocks.

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