What if Rylai's gets broken up into 2-3 specalized items?

Linna Excel·Oct 7, 2016·3 votes·560 views

With all the talk about rylai's going on, maybe instead of talking about what it should be, maybe we should start asking if it should be a single item or a group of items that build out of a mini-rylai's? For instance you could have a reverted form of rylai's that'll keep the current items name. Then you could have the AP+Mana+CDR item meddler was talking about. Then perhaps you could add an item that trades in the HP for some form of sustain.

Finally maybe riot could add an AP+HP item that isn't rylai's or RoA (different passive) for people who want a lot of AP and HP.

9 Comments

S0kaXOct 7, 20161 votes

Like Zhonya's Ring

SohleksOct 7, 20161 votes

My one concern with that is by making more of them we could be sort of endorsing a world where everyone buys em all the time becoming staple core items for each class. And if one is better stat'ed than the other especially in favor of ranged it'll feel bad for the guys left out.

But the point of splitting them up IMO is to ultimately build them each class without overstat'ing them, while keeping it somewhat viable for each class. Maybe if everyone had a slow option and the stats weren't overpowered too some players on a team can opt into it while the others go after alternate needs.

And I still kinda of question if maybe the passive's strength itself is just the issue. And if we split the item into two and the slow is still OP boy we're gonna look mighty silly.

I wonder if people are tired of Rylias and Mallet atm

Because making more of them may trigger an arms competition. And it homogenizes the classes a bit maybe. At least make the mechanics of them different enough they don't look the same.

And a guy above me mentions we already have item 3030 and it's underused

Linna ExcelOct 7, 20161 votes

IMO rylai's should always be something worth considering. It fills an important need: ap mids have an option to provide soft CC if their team needs it. It also has great stats ATM.

However that said, the more I look into the item, the more I'm wondering if it's just the forums being the forums. I mean aside from Aussie, it seems like it's not a core item on that many champs according to champion.gg.

GeauxxOct 7, 20161 votes

item 3030 <--- ? Or item 3152

For the AP+HP item.

Linna ExcelOct 7, 20161 votes

The ice cannon has a good bit of AP, a bit of HP, and a bit of mana. However it's not that popular. Protobelt has lesser stats because of the active. I mean it's good on some champs, but it's not really a go-to item either.

SohleksOct 8, 20161 votes

Rylias is broken. Protobelt is OP too, very strong on any aggressive burster for its cost (DFG lite). Only Eve and Kennen and kinda Vlad or Mordekaiser really care for its little thrust aggressively, but the cooldown is still low enough to abuse as waveclear or emergency getaway

Oddly if you have both Protobelt becomes GLP [ice cannon] basically that thrusts. But I've only seen Kennen afford to build that combination of items, though I do it on Morgana mid as well, and it's a good build that helps her land Q

GeauxxOct 8, 20161 votes

actually the ice cannon one has started to become popular on bruiser ap champs as of late

It's been seen replacing RoA for champs like ryze/Sol/lissandra(sometimes for liss anyways) tbh, I think it is a go to item on Sol at least... only him though.

Zero Skill TankOct 7, 20161 votes

I think they should make it too. Squishy mages probably shouldn't have access to Rylais in it's current shape, but that again if they don't, they are left with like 6 items including sorcs, 7 for those Seraphs makes sense on.