Why do people rush Runaan's on Kalista?

Laraso··2 votes·5,041 views

Like I get it, it lets her put spears in multiple targets at the same time, but what does Runaan's really offer as a first item other than attack speed? Wouldn't you still be better off buying IE first, or even just a Shiv which also gives considerable attack speed in addition to extra burst from its passive and crit chance?

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Zazusha4 votes

stack rend stacks on a few minions, Execute them with a Q to put all the rend stacks on the other ADC, Activate E.

also ofc, AtkSpd = Mobility.

also Cheap item. Spikes before other adc's

Laraso1 votes

Well, static shiv is also a cheap item that gives attack speed and mobility, but also more damage. So basically the only reason anyone's really giving me here is that it lets you stack spears on minions, which I already said I understood, I just don't know why it's so important that you would rush Runaan's before an actual damage item like IE or shiv. You're losing out a lot on DPS and I guess unless not killing anything and having your wave pushed 24/7 is your goal, I just don't see it being a good first item. It seems more like something you'd buy later in the game after you've already got a decent amount of damage items for the attack speed to really make a difference, and teamfights start breaking out for the passive to actually be relevant.

Kazaashi1 votes

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Well, static shiv is also a cheap item that gives attack speed and mobility, but also more damage. So basically the only reason anyone's really giving me here is that it lets you stack spears on minions, which I already said I understood, I just don't know why it's so important that you would rush Runaan's before an actual damage item like IE or shiv.

Yea, that and Kalista is the only champ that doesn't have the HUGE positional disadvantage that Runaan's gives you, so she is pretty much the only ADC its worth getting on. Also, she gains mobility from AS, so the crazy amount of AS on Hurricane isn't wasted.

PerishSoftly1 votes

I laned with a fantastic Kalista one time that did that. We were just laning, no problem, she has hurricane... then she Qs through 4 minions and tags the ADC, and uses Rend.

ADC loses about 95% of the health from full.

Sona Me: WTF Thresh Enemy Support: WTF Ashe Enemy ADC: WTF Kalista : ...Okay wtf that is straight up broken.

youngjake933 votes

Hurricane lets you lifesteal three times as fast and have the fastest passive hops. So basically it is the item that lets you kite indefinitely without dying which is Kalista's whole niche. If you wanted to maximize DPS you wouldn't pick Kalista...

Zazusha2 votes

technically only 2 times as fast, as the side targets only take 50% of the AA damage, so the Total life steal is only 200% (100 on main target and 50% on side targets)

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

But finishiend runaans ISNT a power spike in lane or skirmishing

Support Evelynn2 votes

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But finishiend runaans ISNT a power spike in lane or skirmishing

Um yah it is? In lane it allows you to cast E in multiple time when you stack it on minions during a trade.

Immortal Strife1 votes

It's because of Rend, Kalista can proc with hurrican unlike other adc's such as Vayne's silverbolts or Twitch's poison. Hurricane Kalista has low damage until 2/3 items, and is by no means the only build that's good on her, just watch Prey from Korea go ham with a Kalista IE build.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Twitch poison procs with hurricane. In fact, vayne is the only onhit in the game that doesn't work with hurrican...

Immortal Strife1 votes

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Twitch poison procs with hurricane. In fact, vayne is the only onhit in the game that doesn't work with hurrican...

Ah did not know that, thanks.

Zazusha1 votes

well, Sheen and subsquent item procs do not either, not does the E proc of TwistedFate (the stackin up to 4 does, but the actual damage proc only hits the primary target)

Sire Hippington1 votes

sheen only procs on one hit, so it does only proc on the main target to be reliable, same for twisted, kennen and co(pretty sure twisted and kennen proced on random targets in the past, depending on when the required stacks are reached, maybe they changed it to only main target for more reliabillity at some point) However, twisted, cait and co do get one stack per target hit, so they do work with runnans. Vayne is a kind of exeption, as she looses all stacks upon switching a target, so if runaans would proc her W, it would make the entire skill usless.

S H A Y C 01 votes

there is a simple reason why anyone in league does anything ever....saw a pro do it once, must be op imma do it from now on gg. Example...urgot jungle, ever wonder why anyone would ever think to do this...someone streamed urgot for 24hrs once and bam, urgot jungle is born.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Kllista has a incredible as-scaling, not only does her E reach high damage, her mobillity also scales massively with AS, actually more than with MS. ANother thing is that her E is a nice cc tool for chaseing with the slow but has a high cd if you don't killl something with it, but with runaans you have a good chance of killing a minion while also slowing your opponent, so you get damage and slow on the enemy without loosing the cd. It also helps alot for aoe damage in clashes and for clearing waves.

SIayton1 votes

I feel like she loses dueling power with it, but her farm, push, and mobility go through the roof. You're not beating any ADCs 1v1 with it though, if they have a BF.

youngjake931 votes

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I feel like she loses dueling power with it, but her farm, push, and mobility go through the roof. You're not beating any ADCs 1v1 with it though, if they have a BF.

Most EU ADCs go bork into hurricane because bork gives the highest DPS out of a single item to be able to duel early. A lot of NA ADCs just build the most efficient components of BT and Hurricane to finish them at the same time bc that is a ridiculous power spike that can compete with crit build just from the ridiculous survivability.

only larvitar1 votes

Her infinitly stacking Rend works well with the item given she can auto Two more targets allows to huge amounts of burst in team fights. Runaans in general is still a god awful item.

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