Is there any point to playing Viktor anymore?

Risen29··4 votes·1,679 views

I might be missing something, so I would like to know how or why I should use Viktor these days. He use to be my favorite mage, back when nobody played him and he was silently powerful. But now he's at 48% winrate and I can't really think of any good reason to play viktor over better options.

He no longer has powerspikes you can use to bully after nerfs to death ray and hexcore. He no longer is a powerful anti-engage teamfight mage with his nerfed ultimate, and partially because of nerfed death ray. But he's still saddled with very high cooldown spells, and iffy range on death ray, that make him a very poor poke mage. And because of the cooldown on his stuff, combined with his damage nerfs, I don't think he contributes nearly as much to a sustained teamfight most other mages. Plus, he's still saddled with some of the worst CC/Mobility in the game (a long cooldown locational slow that is unlikely to stun competent players, and a sprint on Q that will never save him against a mobile champion). Xerath, a notoriously immobile champion, at least has a stun and more reliable/stronger slow on quicker cooldown. Your Q shield isn't going to do anything but delay your inevitable death either in most cases.

I want to experiment using him as a tank mage. It could be fun, but perhaps is of questionable value.

9 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

His scaling is too heavy and CDs are too long for him to be an effective tank, he just ends up useless.

To be a tank, a champion needs either reliable CC or constant damage output that is relevant without heavy scaling.

Tank Ekko or Fizz worked because they had high base damage + low cooldowns, before that was rebalanced.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

Don't build him Tank. Its honestly an over-hyped build.

He's meant to be an AOE nuker... not a bruiser.

The Tank Vik makes no sense anyways.

"I am doing well... I have Hex 3 and now its time to carry... SO I BUILD TANK?"

Well then who is going to deal damage?

If the answer is, "the rest of my team," then you're in one of those games where you can run any build and get away with it. If its a remotely close game, you're better off running damage.

Chimp Joker1 votes

HE'S AT 48% WINRATE???? He was at 42%-44% not too long ago. I guess those changes made to him recently really helped him out.

MrPhamtom1 votes

theres a new viktor shield build going around

it's using fleet footwork, abyssal mask, and lichbane for Viktor to become a bruiser mage

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

His skills are very reliable and easy to aim.

Death Ray is super fast skill shot (the fastest for its range and spammability) and Q is point and click. Even though people can walk out of R's ticks R still has INSTANT damage when cast and its AOE.

At 2+(1/2) items he will start to out-damage all other Mids in the game with his AOE nukes. At 3 items... it doesn't matter if Aftershock and Ult ticks are not hitting... the initial blast of any combination of your spells just DELETES. Also, Q has a TWO SECOND cool down and with a Lich Bane it deals unmatched amounts of Godly damage.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

He is actually sleeper OP

He just needs a save early game. But he scales pretty insanely with fleet runestone

Risen291 votes

If Viktor is meant to be an AoE Nuker, then that raises the question again of why I would choose Viktor over Xerath or Ziggs. He has less range, high CD, worse CC/escape.

It seems like bruiser viktor at least makes use of something unique about him - his shields and Q interactions.

lilpokfluf1 votes

I would've thought the new liandrys and rylais buff would've helped him out. That's unfortunate

Risen291 votes

Initial testing has shown that the bruiser Q build does work as an effective lane bully, and can be good mid game, but starts to fall off hard against anything with MR. But there's not a lot of late game with that build. I wouldn't want to play this build unless I was sure my team was capable of taking advantage of the early mid lane win I gave them. At this elo, they often aren't. So I have to go for late game builds.

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