Can new Fiora still build all damage?

Absolute0Chaos··1 votes·924 views

inb4notlikely

My old Fiora build:

item 3074 item 3142 item 3071 item 3031 item 3035 item 3111

item 3111 ->item 3078 late game after other items

Probably can't build like this now

14 Comments

LoLKiru2 votes

Her true damage scales based on AD if I recall, so shes certainly incentivized to do so.

I'd really like to NOT have tank Fiora be a thing.

Edit: her heal scales based on AD as well (60% ratio too).

Absolute0Chaos2 votes

It's not about only scaling, it's about ingame viability.

If a champ dies too often, scaling might as well be 0. T_T

Crowe Stalker2 votes

She doesn't have a built-in Scaling AD Shield like Riven does and relying on your mobility on a Melee Champion is liable to get you killed. I'd advise at least one defensive item, maybe two, but Damage should definitely be her focus considering how her AD scaling works.

Absolute0Chaos1 votes

My main question is whether or not can she build all damage.

I know building 1 or 2 defense and you're still technically on the more damage-y side.

But still...old Fiora built only a GA at most.

Only Play Darius2 votes

No, her invulnerabilty was the only thing allowing her to get away with glass cannon builds. They took it away and added %HP damage to encourage bruiser builds.

Surr20plz1 votes

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No, her invulnerabilty was the only thing allowing her to get away with glass cannon builds. They took it away and added %HP damage to encourage bruiser builds.

WHICH IS GARBAGE!

FIORA RUINED!

Jasteus1 votes

You can't build her all dmg, you don't have time to do the passive, if you build all dmg, you dash in, you have no escape with MAX 40% CD for like 4 seconds, which is an eternity in a team fight, right now frozen heart seems mandatory, she doesn't have enough mana regen, or mana pool to do much more than her q, w, e, more than twice at best, in a 1v1 this is fine, in a teamfight, you're practically useless except an auto attack bot, with an R, which kind of takes her back to where she was before rework. And without 40% cdr, her Q takes 6 seconds to recast at max level with just 20%. Also she has like no health now at all, she caps out at @ 2k, 2200 or so with a black cleaver. It's not like yi, who has a gap closer/attack, makes him invulnerable allowing him to get off his dmg. His heal which buys him time to possibly get another Q off.

Max build in PBE in a bot game that I used was, mercs, frozen heart, frozen mallet (all of her "mobility" is either too short or doesn't do enough to do anything with her passive) black cleaver, hydra, botrk. I had @ 3k health, 200ish armor, 105 or so mr, 295 dmg or so. I was running armor pen marks except for 1 ad mark, 2 armor pen quints, movespeed quint, armor yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, 21/0/9, 23% lifesteal

Absolute0Chaos1 votes

item 3110 is only 1 item though, you still built 4 damage items on her...ok, 3.5, if item 3022 only counts for half.

And does she get BORK now? What about Youmuu? Last Whisper? And no more BF Sword item?item 3070

I know you're only testing, but I would like to hear some insight.

Bârd1 votes

item 3078 item 3074 item 3111 item 3072 item 3143 item 3035

Meep Man1 votes

It really depends on how good her scaling is. If her heal on her passive scales enough, maybe. If her ultimate has a low enough cool down and is easy to proc fully, probably.

Cerulean Laser1 votes

Whether or not you can get away with a glass build depends on your skill level and how the game is progressing. Not all classes with +% true damage have invincibility frames.

Sorcery = 5% CDR item 3158 = +15% CDR item 3071 = 20% CDR Which gives you 40% CDR

With This:

  • Q: 2.4sec CD at Max if you hit a champion with it (10->6->2.4).

  • W: 9 sec CD at Max (15->9)

  • E: 4.2 at Max (7->4.2)

  • R: 42 sec at Max (70->42)

Xantak1 votes

I'd put a Spirit Visage on her myself.

Cerulean Laser1 votes

I'm going to miss Hydra so much.

Absolute0Chaos1 votes

My old Fiora build:

item 3074 item 3142 item 3071 item 3031 item 3035 item 3111

item 3111 ->item 3078 late game after other items

Probably can't build like this now

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