Either take away the animations, make it an option or stop animation cancelling

Monkey D Luffy·May 29, 2015·19 votes·2,486 views

Seriously though, whats with animation cancelling? "Just another level of game mastery" shouldn't really cut it, the animations are there for a reason.

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SvddenlyMay 29, 201515 votes

Riot doesn't like hidden power, but animation cancelling is a big form a hidden power.

Yes, I'm looking at you Riven .

Monkey D LuffyMay 29, 20153 votes

It's hard not to look at riven when she jumps in your face and kills you lol

PæanMay 29, 20156 votes

forgot to say "at level 1 with only Q and a longsword" :O

SvddenlyMay 30, 20152 votes

But the thing is I had no idea that animation cancelling was something that made Riven really good.

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20151 votes

It definitely helps her.

ScreamPasteMay 30, 20155 votes

Animation cancelling is really important to the game and without it the skillcap of many champions would be greatly reduced.

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20153 votes

It should still be made public, it's more of a hidden skill that not many people know about so it's not fair in that way.

qetzelMay 30, 20153 votes

Almost everyone knows about animation cancelling. Orb walking is animation cancelling.

TransgressorMay 30, 20155 votes

Just another lame QQ thread with nothing productive to offer other than trying to fish for upvotes. Let me tell you what, let's remove animation canceling from every single champion, let's remove autoattack resets, let's remove ward hopping, let's remove gap closers that pass through terrain, let's remove everything that indicates a certain level of champion mastery above your average player. Learning to play around the game's limitations is legitimate skill, learning to surpass those limitations is mastery, utilizing the skills you've aquired through hard work is completely fair, and acceptable.

While we're at it, let's ban curving balls because of the coriolis effect, or let's make all balls curve naturaly, because when a player takes advantage of the laws of physics to make a ball curve mid flight is against the rules.

-Kappa

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20151 votes

Lol way to take it over the top.

TransgressorMay 30, 20154 votes

MachaggisMay 30, 20154 votes

Should be removed it's more like a glitch then a legit strategy

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20151 votes

Yeah that's a good point.

Ariel the CruelMay 30, 20156 votes

Except orb-walking and Rivin Q's are aknowladged by Riot and deemed perfectly acceptable. ... Though Riven's is blatently a bug (and they've admitted this).

Incidentally, did you know that ward hopping was a bug? Jax, Lee Sin, and Katerina weren't supposed to be able to do it. But at community request, they kept it in.

Spicy RiceMay 30, 20154 votes

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Seriously though, whats with animation cancelling? "Just another level of game mastery" shouldn't really cut it, the animations are there for a reason.

Im guessing you never saw the pbe update where they removed her need to auto cancel?

Also, you would be removing half the skill needed in a moba, as animation canceling while orbwalking is a big deal

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20151 votes

It's still pretty much a bug and animation cancelling falls under half the skill needed? I'm sorry but wth?

ElJanitorFrankMay 31, 20153 votes

I have no problem with it. If they take it out, then the skilled Riven players who deserve it will get punished, and the gutter-trash Riven players will be no different.

It is a hard thing to master, and I think it's a very interesting part of gameplay honestly. I think it needs to be kept.

IcyPepperMay 29, 20152 votes

~~If people want faster autoattacks in seconds, they ought to build attack speed like everyone else.~~

Lemme guess, problems with Riven?

Edit: completely wrong about the first part, my mistake.

Monkey D LuffyMay 29, 20156 votes

Everyone has problems with Riven and yes, take away the ability to animation cancel with riven...

Ariel the CruelMay 30, 20156 votes

Braum I no mind the little girl. Come, let us glue sword /back/ together.

Sire HippingtonMay 30, 20155 votes

animation canceling doesn't change anything about how much AAs you do in a second, it just influences the time you have for moveing/casteing in between the AAs

Ariel the CruelMay 30, 20152 votes

Quinn When breathing cancels my auto attacks while the bolts are in the air. . . . . . it definitely changes how many I can do.

Also... I don't think the attack-move cancellations are really to issue at hand. Though they do also fall under "animation canceling".

CindikleMay 30, 20152 votes

I think the main problem is with abilities. Riven being the most known issue on her Q. The difference in damage between someone who cancels Q's animation into an AA is quite large. And I don't mind that she can cancel it. I mind that she can almost instantly AA right after. Then continue repeat with no delay.

The biggest issue IMO is the mix of abilities and flash. There's a lot of abilities that have delays for a reason. Lee's R being a famous one for this. But almost every non-skill shot ability can do this.

Wost part is that lag time has a huge factor in this. Meaning east coast's disadvantage is even larger.

IcyPepperMay 30, 20151 votes

Ah, my bad.

I could've sworn... whelp, I guess I was wrong. Thanks for the correction, mate.

FearEngineerMay 30, 20151 votes

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IcyPepperMay 30, 20151 votes

Vile spew? It's not like you''re being real friendly right now.

And I think I'm allowed to post on the forums just like anyone else. It's not like I'm telling you to never come here.

a call beyondMay 30, 20152 votes

Pretty sure riven Q animation canceling is blatant bug abuse and anyone who does it should be banned

Ariel the CruelMay 30, 20153 votes

It is, actually. But Riot has OK'ed it and even made balance changes around it.

Though some other instances are banable after 1st offense. coughSIONULTcough

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20152 votes

Source link?

TransgressorMay 30, 20153 votes

Pressing H to make Sion do sharp turns while ulting isn't nowhere near close to riven's animation canceling, it's taking advantage of a gamebraking bug, which got fixed as well as being a banable exploit.

DecaedeusMay 31, 20152 votes

Seriously? So we can make Riven both a) trash-tier in high-elo play, and b) extremely mindless? I'm sorry, but decreasing skillcap on an already relatively mechanically simple champion is not the way to balance a champion.

Mew Goes ADMay 30, 20151 votes

Now that you mention it, it does seem a bit wasteful for the animators to go out of their way to create the animation when 90% of experienced players will never see it.

Its only purpose now seems to be as a newbie trap for new players that don't know the counterintuitive "secret" that a simple right-click auto-attack that looks like a continuous attack and seems like a continuous attack isn't actually the preferred method of continuously attacking in this game.

Monkey D LuffyMay 30, 20151 votes

Which doesn't seem right, that's why they should either make it an option to disable animations or remove the possibility to cancel.

CrazedPorcupineMay 30, 20151 votes

here's the thing with no animations, you'd have champs like riven, Naut, and others just running absolutely rampant, and ADC's would be absolutely insane for how well they could kite.

Extreme TrollerMay 30, 20151 votes

tecnical thread is tecnical.

What do you mean by animation canceling ? 99% have no clue what is it. Do you mean the E skill that can cancel hydra+Q ? because seriously i'm sure riot don't even know you can do it.