Why did it take me so long to realise that support was in fill's place...
Because fill icon and support icon are identical twins.
honestly i really hate how no one wants to play support :P its really crappy and the support mains (like myself) who want to play something else, basically cant riot, do something so that there will be more supports (ie, exp boost, and make it based on assists, not kills)
um... if you want to play something else... don't put fill/support.
His point is if you put Support/Top for example you'll always get Support and never Top.
Because if you put Support/Top that means you WANT Support and only Top If the queu time would be too long? After they fixed the "I don't get my primary role" we are actually going to complain about "I get my primary role too much?" WTF? What universe is this? Simply pick as primary what you want and as secondary something you'd be able to play If primary is not available.
If you want it random then throw dices before picking the roles.
ok, if you put top/support you will never get top.
Aint that the truth or top/fill
if you don't want to play support don't pick it.
I'm not complaining, i main support so this isn't even my problem, but even i can see that's kinda messed up.
the real problem is that support is such a bad role, I'm just repeating the obvious.
It's not a bad role, it's not even boring, if more people would try and play support it could be better, but it's just that the other lanes/roles are glorified for doing good, but if your ADC gets a penta because of you, they're all saying "good job (ADC)". I think Riot should create a way so the support gets more recognition.
It's also the fact that it's the lane where you are forced to play directly with someone else. That can easily be Not Fun in solo queue.
An awesome mid or top laner can win their lane without jungler help. An awesome jungler can focus on the lanes with good allies and help those win. A support with a bad ADC... can't really do much. A support with a toxic ADC... is stuck down there with them and can't really leave.
Actually, when I get a toxic adc, I just leave. They can suck it, and I'll go help take tower in top/mid.
Not true you're still more likely to get support than top, but you will every few games get top
I picked mid/support and got mid. How come?
the game must think your a terrible support that doesent build sightstone
you can also put top/support and never get top. there are a lot of us jungle/supports out there that would enjoy a little variety but are force to do what everyone else does and put mid as secondary when we want to jungle. And then when we get mid we have to be the asshole that begs for a trade.
i suffer from last pick fill syndrome from S4, im used to always being support...
first starting jungle main little later i get forced out from there into top i get forced from top into support then role pick comes out this season and im feeling the riot voodoo....
I actually used to be a Mid/ADC/Support main, but after the ADC changes I can't play them as well anymore and seeing as I would become a support main if I queued with Mid/Support, I've just gone to Mid/Top in ranked and it is NOT helping my rank in the slightest. It'd be cool if you got a 100% chance of your main role if you had your secondary twice in a row as an option.
I'm fine with Fill in Blind Pick, because while I'll get Support I won't get it every game. Over the last 32 Blind Pick Fill games, I've gotten Support 34% of the time.
Riot's "Fill" for New Champ Select works very differently though. Because it only focuses on reducing queue times for the system as a whole, it's always going to put people who select Fill in whatever role has the fewest people in it. There's no "maybe I'll get something else" because the system doesn't want you to get something else.
Secondary Support might be better now than it was on start, but no one will pick it because they've been burned too many times now and Riot was too slow to act.
Playing fill only is almost = to supp. Had one game as jungle i believe. Not that i mind so much, love playing supp right now cus im bored of everything in League anyways
It's not that nobody wants to play support, it's that very few people want to play support 100% of the time, which is what happens when you queue for support or fill, even as a secondary. Support is my second best role but I queue jungle/mid because I know I will never get jungle if I queue for support.
This needs to happen - especially when you main somebody like
who flat out isn't supposed to kill (though she mysteriously KS's sometimes ;P ). Support has an entirely different objective which shouldn't ever be graded on kills rather damage prevented, buffs and assist.
This needs to happen - especially when you main somebody like
who flat out isn't supposed to kill (though she mysteriously KS's sometimes ;P ). Support has an entirely different objective which shouldn't ever be graded on kills rather damage prevented, buffs and assist.
To be fair one of the worst things about the support role is the possibility of going against that abomination of a champion, they really should just gut it.
You are so pathetic.
is perfectly fine right now and has plenty of counterplay.
You are so pathetic.
is perfectly fine right now and has plenty of counterplay.
Keep telling that to yourself, still won't make it true, she's still a moronic abomination.
its cuase raka 2.0 wasent flashy enough building
and q spamming up front with the melee.....
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its cuase raka 2.0 wasent flashy enough building
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and q spamming up front with the melee.....
"flashy"? She is unineractive cancer, there are plenty of matchups she is favorable to win just by afk healing from behind her adc.
She should be gutted, such faceroll trash should not be so effective.
i think you mean raka 3.0 which is her current version
Whenever raka was strong she always was this way, she always was a champion who was extremely effective even when played in the most braindead of ways.
Fair enough!
This needs to happen - especially when you main somebody like
who flat out isn't supposed to kill (though she mysteriously KS's sometimes ;P ). Support has an entirely different objective which shouldn't ever be graded on kills rather damage prevented, buffs and assist.
Supports are likely the role with the least graded objecives. There are so MANY aspects that should count, unfortunately, some would be very hard to measure.
-> Time of Hard CC applied ( Caitlyn, honey... would you kindly shoot Ashe in this 5.5 second window where she's seeing little sun's around her head?) -> Time of Soft CC applied -> Damage Shielded -> Enemy Death's in Ward Proximity (Yes Syndra, that low HP Yi doing red? The ward was mine, you're welcome.) -> Average % HP removed before target dies to someone else (Yes Lucian, if I burst down Vayne from 100% to 10% in a flash as Zyra, I'm the carry)
Why no follow up on cait?
uhm.... you instagibbed her?
oh.... whoops
facepalm
honestly i really hate how no one wants to play support :P its really crappy and the support mains (like myself) who want to play something else, basically cant riot, do something so that there will be more supports (ie, exp boost, and make it based on assists, not kills)
Who wants an exp boost?
Who wants an exp boost?
Every support main who's tired of being level 8 with a sightstone, boots and gold item while 8 other players are level 12 with 3/4 of their builds finished.
Every support main who's tired of being level 8 with a sightstone, boots and gold item while 8 other players are level 12 with 3/4 of their builds finished.
I thought you meant account boost ><
eh i sometimes out level everyone else bot....
riot, do something...
What do you expect them to do? What can they do to make supports more appealing to play?
buff gp/10 runes? but add a debuff to them that makes you deal less damage? idfk im not a rito employee and dont know balence.
One time I put Support as my primary and Mid as secondary. About five seconds later, I got into champ select, where I was positioned in Mid. I'm still confused.
Lies
One of my worst matches recently (as a support main) was when i picked primary support and secondary mid, and got mid...
Wait, wait !!?? are you trying to tell me that some DynamicQ lovers are actually about to wake up ??? [zombie-brand-mindblown]
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
That's the new champ select, dynamic queue is how many people you can queue up with.
Also not to mention this is a M&G post...