So I just went 20/2 and permanently unlocked Academy Ahri with Annie...

Tworie·Dec 1, 2016·2 votes·559 views

and all I had to do was take a full page of scaling AP runes for that sweet sweet 80 AP at level 18

13 Comments

FourVsFiveDec 1, 20162 votes

Better off going flat AP Quints, with Magic pen marks.

Final Spark LuxDec 1, 20161 votes

This. I've done the math, and it doesn't matter what the AP ratios are on your spells or how much MR the enemy builds. Magic pen marks with flat AP quints is always going to be optimal for anyone doing magic dmg. Better than using magic pen quints too

TworieDec 1, 20161 votes

That's early game though Scaling AP is for late game

Final Spark LuxDec 1, 20161 votes

Well of course late scaling will be better, but Im more refering to the marks. The magic pen beats out everything else, and as for quints, the AP beats out everything else. I like the early game damage though so I use flats. Easier to get a lead that way

WoonStruckDec 2, 20161 votes

Before they changed Abyssal, using scaling AP was better if you bought Abyssal on some champs. After the recent Abyssal change, magic pen is objectively better.

FourVsFiveDec 1, 20161 votes

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That's early game though Scaling AP is for late game

You talking about a +8 Ap difference when using quints by lvl vs flat at lvl 18.... when you hit lvl 18 that AP difference is like 1.5% increase. Vs a 100% increase at lvl 1 using flat AP quints. Making you able to get creep kills more easy, and too poke enemy in or exchange blows much better.

TworieDec 2, 20161 votes

+8 difference? You get 20+ AP past level 6... and 85 AP at level 18????

FourVsFiveDec 2, 20161 votes

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+8 difference? You get 20+ AP past level 6... and 85 AP at level 18????

I talking about quints only, flat vs lvl 18 ones. There is only a +8 difference.

TworieDec 2, 20161 votes

I'm talking about having a full page of scaling AP???

bad arcade kittyDec 1, 20161 votes

all scaling ap sounds horrible

at least get red mpen

also some cdr could be nice too (assuming you don't want armor and mr)

i personally play mid a lot and have no ap runes whatsoever, i use ms quints instead on everything, not sure how much it is viable but i got used to them

TworieDec 1, 20161 votes

nah son if you're going to play Annie you need a full page of scaling AP and then you rush rabadons and mejais and just coast

EmojayDec 1, 20161 votes

I'm going full scaling cdr full runes masteries items cdr kassadin. Think ittl be better? My goal is to hop all over the place! By level 12, I'll be crazy!!! I'm going to play more disrupters/annoying to fight build!!!

WoonStruckDec 2, 20161 votes

I run hp/lvl yellows, 2 cdr/lvl quints, and the rest filled with ap/lvl for Vlad.

AP helps more for sustain, as well as scaling your passive.