I found Illaoi's counter play

And how exactly Braum is a counter to Illaoi?

you put your shield up and tentacles barely damage you at all during trades.... granted, this was Braum support vs Illaoi support, but it could probly work top lane too.

So the main question is what build do you go? Do you go BORK then tank or do you do sunfire wits end?

(assuming top lane) would def go sunfire first,or at least bamis cinder.

For support i just went full tank but for top lane i would do cinder then the new tank item that gives you a cleave on all autos (dont know its name)

Zyra support seems decent against Illaoi, and juggernauts in general. Liandry (core item) can help soften Illaoi up for your real damage dealers to finish her off, and the CC that you bring as Zyra will make her cry.

Tahm kench wrecks illaoi, in support or top lanes. It's a hilariously bad matchup.

Top Lane Counters - Ryze, Heimerdinger, Darius, Riven, Gnar ??? Jungle Counters - Kindred Support Counters - Zyra, Thresh, Soraka

That's called Counterpick,not Counterplay. Her counterplay is trying to dodge her tentacles and Q which is hard when she uses her ult,learn to kite when she has 2 seconds dash,and dodge or stay behind your allies when she uses test of spirit. If you want a TRUE champion who have no counterplay mechanically,that's But if you want a champion that has no Weakness,which is strong counterpick to literally everything,that's

That's called Counterpick,not Counterplay. Her counterplay is trying to dodge her tentacles and Q which is hard when she uses her ult,learn to kite when she has 2 seconds dash,and dodge or stay behind your allies when she uses test of spirit. If you want a TRUE champion who have no counterplay mechanically,that's But if you want a champion that has no Weakness,which is strong counterpick to literally everything,that's

That's called Counterpick,not Counterplay. Her counterplay is trying to dodge her tentacles and Q which is hard when she uses her ult,learn to kite when she has 2 seconds dash,and dodge or stay behind your allies when she uses test of spirit. If you want a TRUE champion who have no counterplay mechanically,that's But if you want a champion that has no Weakness,which is strong counterpick to literally everything,that's