How come veigar is still standing with one key kill ?
Its the same level of undodgeability as the others had but he doesnt even need to get close and personal with you? Bah you can flash and still get hit by that projectile
So im asking ... why is the guy who has 100% sure kill burst on 2 skill combo (q+ult) not even mentioned, when all other champs got gutted without mercy?
Junkο3 votesSomebody just got owned by a veigar trololol
Knight SoIaire 1 votes15 kills adc rolling itself around the map suddenly 2/4 veigar without farm comes and takes 3/4 of my hp by ult alone and its quite normal for him
Junkο1 votesif he only took 3/4 of your health with ult then he shouldn't be playing Veigar at all.
Knight SoIaire 1 voteslost the lane and didnt even farm
pro4never3 votesBecause unlike those assassins veigar is not mobile, needs a long time to get to that point and has large cooldowns that mean if he misses something there's lots of time for counter play.
Lets take pre nerf talon (lets go back a few sets of nerfs here, not just the most recent ones) and compare it to veigar.
Veigar is ahead and wants to fight. He tries to E. That E can be dodged by talon by walking, flashing or using his gapcloser on a minion or enemy champion. Veigar can ult but he's vs a target with no AP meaning unless we're talking 40+ minutes into to the game he's not gonna 1 shot him.
Talon is ahead and wants to fight. He jumps in, autos, Q's, ults and uses W (they cast at same time) and uses tiamat. Congratz he just did more than double your health while you were silenced. None of the abilities used could have been stopped, dodged or countered because you were silenced and the entire combo took under 1 second.
Hell pre-pre-nerf talon had way more dmg as well so he could kill veigar just by jumping in, using AA, Q, W. He still has ignite, flash, ult and hydra active if needed to jump onto secondary targets or stealth away.
#counterplay
Knight SoIaire 1 votesveigar is not mobile thus he has better cc and longer range and he doesnt realy need this much time to get to the one shot point
also what the fk is the way talon soloes veigar have to do with the topic
next thing you forgot that veigars ult is decimating without the enemy ap scaling
so yeah .. you have the point in lack of mobility but i see that he has stuff to compensate, while the description of the solo fight is just some randomn stuff
mike the pike2 votesthe reason why viegar's abilities are so powerful is because that's all viegar is good at, he is slow, he has low resistances, he is squishy as a marshmallow, if any champion avoids his stun or dark matter then that's 75% of his effectiveness gone. Also viegar is meant to be an anti mage because of his ult, any champ with durability or high ad or decent range can take him out quite quickly. Heck even ryze can take out viegar with not as much trouble because he is also a mana mage.
pro4never1 votesveigar is not mobile thus he has better cc and longer range and he doesnt realy need this much time to get to the one shot point
also what the fk is the way talon soloes veigar have to do with the topic
next thing you forgot that veigars ult is decimating without the enemy ap scaling
so yeah .. you have the point in lack of mobility but i see that he has stuff to compensate, while the description of the solo fight is just some randomn stuff
The OP brought up the two champs and asked why Veigar is allowed to exist when he has no counter play. I explained the differences in how they can each pick a fight when ahead and how much counter play they haev.
PS: Unless stun lands on veigar you aren't going to hit W. Unless you're 30+ minutes into the game, have ap or have let veig get fed then he cannot 1 shot you with just dfg/q/ult. That's the point I'm making.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesUnless you're 30+ minutes into the game, have ap or have let veig get fed then he cannot 1 shot you with just dfg/q/ult.
i would say that he can do it as soon as he gets dfg
Hayaishi1 votesVeigar is kinda bullshit though.
Stephenizgod1 votes
The Last Assassin With Silence.
Kuroi861 votesHe's not an assassin and he doesn't have the early damage to snowball off of.