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Make a Classic League of Legend without these Certainlyt overloaded kit.

LegendmakerGX·Aug 18, 2018·2 votes·845 views

Remember when not all champions have mobility and if they do have a CC ability they wouldn't crazy big mobility to come with them?

Anyone remember when Turrent doesn't go down if you die by lvl 8 other then a jax jungler hammering at it with his lane?

I Certainlyt remember when I don't get balls delete by a champion in under 15 sec when the game didn't have all these high damage items.

How about revert and make a classic version where you release a champion every 2 weeks? Yes their kit were all generic when you release them ever 2 weeks but because now you're introducing non stop over loaded kit champion especially from Certainlyt design it is putting more then half the rooster practically outdated worst part is because of BE it's crazy hard to actually stay in the meta/game in rank to these high mobile+CC champions.

Also I like the part where if I caught a ADC alone I don't get crit for over 600 damage and CC with either a slow or root+ their mobility.

8 Comments

ParoeAug 18, 20182 votes

Ya know, instead of blaming someone who makes great and fun champions, why dont you blame riots changing policies and the balance team?

Really, this CT hate is ridiculous. Its like blaming obama for obamacare when that was a republican invention.

deadlychuckAug 18, 20181 votes

Because the balance team can only do so much if the development team refuses to create an atmosphere of champions that are inherently impossible to balance relative to each other.

LegendmakerGXAug 18, 20182 votes

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Ya know, instead of blaming someone who makes great and fun champions, why dont you blame riots changing policies and the balance team?

Really, this CT hate is ridiculous. Its like blaming obama for obamacare when that was a republican invention.

What does policies have to do with this? It's sort of hard to balance a champion if they have Mobility/CC/a crazy champion ability+ my favorite a burst in practically every single one of his champions?

Also how is this great for people who don't have enough BE for these over loaded champions? YES it's fun for you playing the champion curb stomping the generic kit champion but is it fun for the people who uses these generic champions from the past?

Player rate is going down for a reason and it isn't Certainlyt alone yes balance team is to blame too but he is one of the major problems who doesn't take feed back of stop filling every idea into one champion.

ParoeAug 18, 20181 votes

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What does policies have to do with this? It's sort of hard to balance a champion if they have Mobility/CC/a crazy champion ability+ my favorite a burst in practically every single one of his champions?

Also how is this great for people who don't have enough BE for these over loaded champions? YES it's fun for you playing the champion curb stomping the generic kit champion but is it fun for the people who uses these generic champions from the past?

Player rate is going down for a reason and it isn't Certainlyt alone yes balance team is to blame too but he is one of the major problems who doesn't take feed back of stop filling every idea into one champion.

Its a poorly thought out analogy. shrug

Anyway, CT's champions are fun. They have some things that arent healthy, but for the most part theyre good. A lot of their broken aspects come from the balance team giving them high numbers and low cooldowns. Its quite okay for a champion to be capable of dueling or catching without being built for it... Riots been going in a "mass generalist" direction for a long, long time now.

The problem we run into is not a specific designer being "WAAAH BAD BAD BAD" like you people scream at the top of your lungs. The problem is the numbers in the game are very much designed to push things into ultra-fast snowballs so they can chase the E$ports dream, which leads to a poor quality product... Which leads to the downward spiral we have now.

You need someone to blame? Instead of blaming CT, blame meddler and ghostcrawler. Between the two of them they keep shrugging off accountability to each other, which shows theres a lot of mismanagement and confusion amongst riots internal.

deadlychuckAug 18, 20181 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Kai GuyAug 18, 20181 votes

Honestly... No. Amumu Dash, Huge AOE Cc. Blitzcrank Still has the games best single target displacement basic ability in the game, more CC ontop of that. Fiddlesticks Fear used to be 3 seconds. Gragas Dash, Aoe knockback. Jax Dodge was a passive + active, free dodge % always, free stun on triggers as well. Activated aoe stun, with damage. There was also an item for extra dodge % that worked with his passive. good times. Also there was Malphite Kassadin Tristana Alistar Warwick TwistedFate , and you know more champios W or W out mobility ever year after.

@ instantly delating champions? Yall ever around For AP Tristana Or AP Sion Old Veigar Several metas we had 1 shot Leblanc Not really something new to see a player get instantly erased in just a few point and clicks. ADC's where not really that class but I remember getting instantly erased in under 5 seconds and doing the same to others for years.

I know your not talking about Alpha, Cuz TF had TP on a 30 second cd, with no vision, his passive was global crit % for all teammates, his R was a gloabal slow, with global vision on enemys, that made his E have no channel time so he had a global flash. Oh also his Pick a cards, Yellow was tied for best in damage (with red), and it was a 1.5 aoe stun, exactly as big as red cards slow.

There was a good deal of mobility early league, it grows every year but so does the inmobile champion pool.

LegendmakerGXAug 19, 20181 votes

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Honestly... No. Dash, Huge AOE Cc. Still has the games best single target displacement basic ability in the game, more CC ontop of that. Fear used to be 3 seconds. Dash, Aoe knockback. Dodge was a passive + active, free dodge % always, free stun on triggers as well. Activated aoe stun, with damage. There was also an item for extra dodge % that worked with his passive. good times. Also there was , and you know more champios W or W out mobility ever year after.

@ instantly delating champions? Yall ever around For AP Or AP Old Several metas we had 1 shot Not really something new to see a player get instantly erased in just a few point and clicks. ADC's where not really that class but I remember getting instantly erased in under 5 seconds and doing the same to others for years.

I know your not talking about Alpha, Cuz TF had TP on a 30 second cd, with no vision, his passive was global crit % for all teammates, his R was a gloabal slow, with global vision on enemys, that made his E have no channel time so he had a global flash. Oh also his Pick a cards, Yellow was tied for best in damage (with red), and it was a 1.5 aoe stun, exactly as big as red cards slow.

There was a good deal of mobility early league, it grows every year but so does the inmobile champion pool.

I'm not going to take you serious or even try to refute anything after seeing you say Amumu has a dash.

Kai GuyAug 19, 20181 votes

Fine. he has a 1100 unit "gapcloser" on his Q that can be triggered off jungle monsters, champions, minions. I apologies for using Dash as a term to dictate gap closers that are not instantaneous. I guess a Dash for you then is defined as unconditional mobility. In that case then its a good thing YASUO has 0 dashes in his kit then am I right?

Here is some Ability detail information on Amumu I used that likely contributed to my gross misrepresentation for what qualifies as a dash. "Crowd control effects will not prevent Amumu from **dashing **if they hit him before the skill shot hits. However, the duration of the crowd control can persist the duration of the dash. "

Thing is, Point and click is also conditional mobility, So If we say that Conditional movement cant be a dash? LeeSin Azir Camille Diana Irelia Jax Jayce Kalista Maokai Pantheon Poppy Quinn Rengar Thresh all have 0 dashes then as they require a target to hit. No doubt here, I bet the community is on your side.

Or alternatively I am correct and a conditional dash is still a dash.

Regardless please, by all means feel free to use your disagreement in the precise definition of what constitutes as a dash as if it has relevance in a conversation about mobility. Its no doubt completely fair to disregard the fact I further listed a massive # of highly mobile champions. I have no doubt your disagreement over a definition of an ability is unrelated to any inability on your part to refute things I have said.

I'm more then happy to keep making fun of you for bitching out of making a decent response and instead you want to nit pick the precise terms for various forms of mobility.

Now please mate, Gracefully bow the hell out or actually refute something. Mobility has been in the game, always.

You don't have to like me but I am not wrong. Disagree? back it up, other wise shush.

Edit. But hey I was being a dick. Here, a full list of Dashes, relevant for poppy mains I guess.

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