How about we just increase the cost or Ardent?

StoryDuck··3 votes·269 views

Bring it up to 2900 Add some AP make Ardent an attractive mid lane item to be made by mid lane mages like Lux Orianna we might see a return of midlane Karma Morgana. Support could still make it but now it'll be a bigger investment hopefully stopping the who rushes first wins mentality. Midlane gets another AP item, the support ardent meta is stopped and everyone is happy.

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GrievousFetus1 votes

Because no matter how expensive it is you're still going to get it as you're coming out of the early game/just into late game (unless you made it like 4000g), and Censer's entire problem is that it's enabling hyper carries because it gives them a free ticket through the mid game where they were traditionally weakest and accelerated when they hit their stride.

StoryDuck1 votes

In this case the mid laner would have to give up power to do so which would be a trade instead of just having the support pump out the item asap. A cost increase could really be used to leverage the timing of the item on a support. Sure, a midlaner could buy it first but this item isn't going to give them mana to stay in lane and it's still weaker then other mid lane items even if the AP was upped to 80. I would also add that very few mid laners would build this item due to so much cost being designated to the passive. As to the support role, it's very very hard to save up 2900+ gold in early game and that extra time it would take a support to farm up the gold for that could make a huge difference in how far behind the bot lane ends up in laning phase perhaps allowing lane bullies to counter hyper carry picks. It would probably be worth exploring to see if it would have the intended results.

Winterwings1 votes

Or... here's an idea... How about we don't!

This whole Ardent complain train is getting pretty out of control now... Yes it's a strong item, even after 7.19... What do you expect when it's the ONLY good offensive option from the entire Enchanter itemization?

At least with the heal on hit removed, you can now ACTUALLY kill the Marksmen even if they get buffed with Ardent... I've seen a brilliant suggestion that would put a end to this "First Ardent Wins" meta, and at the same time make it a more "teamcentric" item rather than being so shoehorned for supporting Marksmen so if you actually do care for Ardent to be made a healthy item -> https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/MvKqiEn3-ardent-censer-could-have-adaptive?comment=0000

Zone of Endless1 votes

they need to remove preseason 8. Ardent censer does not have a place in this game.

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