1 Diamond + 4 silvers CANNOT win against 5 Platinums and this is UNFAIR matchmaking #Flex q

FaytalityHD·Nov 22, 2016·6 votes·1,345 views

Games in this queue are almost unwinnable for higher elo players as the game will compensate for this by putting 4 miserable (not literally) players on your team while matching you against a team of about equally skilled players, who are slightly worse than you are but infinitely better than the 4 players on your team. A single player can not offset 4 players being outclassed heavily, the games feel awful to play. Now with many players switching to solo forever the matchmaking will be even worse so the only way this queue can continue to exist is in my opinion by making it the ranked 5 queue again.

19 Comments

MyNameAintNickNov 22, 20161 votes

Platinum players aren't really too good, they play at about silver level.

The team with the diamond should win.

Mig89Nov 22, 20161 votes

lol this is so wrong.

MyNameAintNickNov 22, 20161 votes

I mean, I'm "silver" and the only plats that beat me are when I'm playing my worst role, top, and when they're like riven one tricks.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2344282610/206256876?tab=overview

Last game I played vs plats, all I'm saying is they're nothing special.

But I'm also not at my proper rank, so take it as you will.

Nami in BushNov 22, 20161 votes

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I mean, I'm "silver" and the only plats that beat me are when I'm playing my worst role, top, and when they're like riven one tricks.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2344282610/206256876?tab=overview

Last game I played vs plats, all I'm saying is they're nothing special.

But I'm also not at my proper rank, so take it as you will.

The only "plats" you will ever vs in silver are the ones with P5 0LP and 45% win rate.

Diamond is 1000x better than Plat, but Plat is 1000x better than Silver.

As stated before, 1 Diamond cannot 5v1 Plats.

GayFluffyUnicornNov 22, 20161 votes

I'm only a filthy low diamond (peaked at dia 4 30 LP s6) but i stomp every plat 5 if it's a real 1v1. The difference between low plat and high plat is huge. The difference between high golds and silvers is noticable if not high considering that most high golds actually have decent mechanics. To make it short: I've seen all from silver V to dia 4 and in no world a silver should be able to against plats. Sure in a 1v1 maybe but a team of silvers against plats? Never. And i feel the OP, it's been awful for me to get mixed with low plats against dia players. They just are never on the same page with you. Either you can hardcarry or lose.

CochoNov 23, 20162 votes

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Platinum players aren't particularly good, I play against a few every game and there isn't a huge skill difference to be honest.

The only exception i've seen are the plat one tricks. I.e, kat or riven players with 1k games. They seem to stomp the silvers, but standard plats aren't really an issue.

After I was done typing, I scrolled down all the way to see this xD. 400k mastery points on kat lol. I guess kat is an exception lol I'm not going to change anything under this because the point still stands.

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I mean, I'm "silver" and the only plats that beat me are when I'm playing my worst role, top, and when they're like riven one tricks.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2344282610/206256876?tab=overview

Last game I played vs plats, all I'm saying is they're nothing special.

But I'm also not at my proper rank, so take it as you will.

Im p5 0 lp, i should be higher, but I stopped playing when I hit plat near season end. Looking at my 20 recent normal matches, when I was in norms alone, I legit have 2 games with 40 kills, average 16 kills a game, and my worst games being kat top. In felx against mainly plats and diamonds, I averaged 7 kills. I know its norms, but im alot better than silver players, not trying to brag or be rude. I wasn't even trying like I would in ranked, I'm sure they weren't either (more or less)

There's alot of mistakes that silver players make that keep then in silver. You just kill them for it. I know kills aren't everything, (maybe on kat they are lol) but 7 kills to 40 is a pretty big difference. I wouldn't be able or allowed to do that in a game vs plats/diamonds.

I looked up your game, the lee and brand were the only plats.

Brand didnt have 1 ranked game on brand.

Lee has a 37% winrate on Lee over 79 games. I don't even know why he's played that many of him. He clearly performs poorly on him.

I really agree with this dude. GayFluffyUnicorn

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I'm only a filthy low diamond (peaked at dia 4 30 LP s6) but i stomp every plat 5 if it's a real 1v1. The difference between low plat and high plat is huge.

To make it short: I've seen all from silver V to dia 4 and in no world a silver should be able to against plats. Sure in a 1v1 maybe but a team of silvers against plats? Never. And i feel the OP, it's been awful for me to get mixed with low plats against dia players. They just are never on the same page with you. Either you can hardcarry or lose.

I don't really want to take your victory away from you, but these guys weren't even on their main champs, so they aren't particularly good is insulting to them, and anyone who plays a new champ. Like yeah I got that medios Lee Sin but I got that box box riven you feel me? lool

GayFluffyUnicornNov 23, 20162 votes

Well Kat is a huge problem for lower elos ofc since: Basically no map awareness, poor warding=free kills for kat. The higher u get the harder it is for kat to pick up kills. And i know exactly what u mean with: making mistakes u kill them for.

You just can't take normals serious in that regard. Even when i play my main in normals i usually dick around unless they start to insult me as "boosted"or some shit. Even in ranked flex Q i just play to try out new champs and many lower elos have this false mind of: plat+= insane mechanics must curbstomp every lane. I've legit been beaten in lane by gold 5s or even silvers. Due to me either underestamating them or what ever reason but i still won in the end and that's the difference you need to learn. Learn how to win the game not lane. Btw with "you need to learn" i mean in general not you particularly. I'd usually write to the other guy but he doesn'T seem to answer and you mentioned me so i felt flattered and thought i'm gonna answer u xD

Nami in BushNov 22, 20164 votes

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Platinum players aren't really too good, they play at about silver level.

The team with the diamond should win.

Legit retarded.

MyNameAintNickNov 22, 20161 votes

Platinum players aren't particularly good, I play against a few every game and there isn't a huge skill difference to be honest.

The only exception i've seen are the plat one tricks. I.e, kat or riven players with 1k games. They seem to stomp the silvers, but standard plats aren't really an issue.

Sit on me AhriNov 23, 20161 votes

If they played at silver level then they would be in silver.

And just cause someone is plat does not mean they are 10x weaker than a diamond player.

Swiftstrike4Nov 22, 20161 votes

This is what a full reset looks like.

Also why are people playing ranked games, or even care about ranked games, during preseason.

Nami in BushNov 22, 20161 votes

'fair but not equal'

technically fair MMR scales

not equal playing field

Let's put Aaron Rodgers on freshman team. Doesn't mean shit how good you at throwing if nobody can catch the ball.

GayFluffyUnicornNov 22, 20161 votes

Nah current matchmaking in flex q is still a mess. I played one flex game to warm up today and i got put into a team of low plats against full diamond/high plat and we still were 120 mmr below (average mmr according to op.gg).

ZorpinkaNov 22, 20161 votes

I had a game with 2 silvers, 2 bronze, and one unranked against 2 plat players, 2 gold, and a silver in RANKED. Totally balanced and working as intended.

We could actually makes some progress here if the fanboys would just stop hyping every bad decision Riot makes and allows us to properly critique stupid shit like this. But, nope, I still have to play against Plat players to prove I can be in Bronze II. Dumb ass, Riot. I'm sure the excuses are already written and they're just waiting for the appropriate time to share the excuses.

ZorpinkaNov 22, 20161 votes

Also, a note, I whipped a Diamond V Kata with Brand and I'm absolute garbage. I STILL don't want to get matched up against guys 4 tiers higher than me. It's fucking stupid. Just get rid of the fucking tiers if they don't matter. If everything is based on MMR(Which it's not because there is no way in hell ANY of the ranked matches I played had similar MMR teams) then remove this stupid tier shit or make tiers directly tied to your MMR.

Since Riot has a hard time with a lot of words lets break this down. IF YOU WANT ME TO PROVE I CAN MAKE IT TO SILVER THEN MATCH ME WITH SILVER AND OTHER BRONZE! I DON'T NEED TO CONSTANTLY FACE PEOPLE 3 TIERS OR MORE ABOVE ME TO MOVE UP ONE GOD DAMN RUNG ON THE LADDER! Why does this stuff need to be explained? How stupid are they really?

Handin Out NapsNov 22, 20161 votes

I feel like it would actually take some kind of skill to lose vs a melee as brand tbh. On another note though was this on Flex q? Im assuming it was. If it was on Flex q just play solo q the matchmaking is way better.