Where is our compensation for the reroll scam? @riot

FaytalityHD·12/27/2017, 12:16:45 AM·169 votes·6,531 views

Now that it has surfaced that you have been purposely withholding critical information regarding the chances of rerolling skins from each tier and have made many players spend money on capsules with abysmal contents, you should feel some sort of obligation to give those players some form of compensation.Realistically, no one would have rerolled shards or bought capsules to get these shards for that matter, had they known about these atrocious odds. Many players, myself included, rerolled countless shards for the chance at getting one of the better 1350 + skins that you have been releasing a lot of lately, and understandably so. Who could have known that the odds of getting one of these were virtually non-existent, as someone on the boards was kind enough to point out. And because all of this was deliberate and kept secret for as long as possible, this has to be seen as a scam. People reroll shards for the chance at getting a random skin, as stated in game, not for a chance at getting a random 520 RP one. If this was a measure, recently implemented, to counteract the increasing number of people choosing to reroll shards instead of redeeming them(again perfectly reasonable and the best way to go about hextech crafting with what information we are given in game and redeeming shards being way expensive), this is an even more miserable act.

109 Comments

TwitchInMyPants12/27/2017, 3:07:49 AM55 votes

There's going to be no compensation because people are going to keep playing League and buying stuff, unless there's both an outcry and a dent in Riot's profit margin none of this complaining is actually going to change anything

Eedat12/27/2017, 3:46:08 AM40 votes

I wish there was a system like in China (Well shit. Never thought I would hear myself say that) where odds legally have to be disclosed to prevent this sort of stuff from happening

FooDang12/27/2017, 12:30:38 AM32 votes

Rerolled a Bioforge Darius +2 other skin shards. I got a Academy Darius permanant. I didnt even own Darius...

R.I.P

I'm not rerolling ever again.

Dope Solo12/27/2017, 12:34:30 AM25 votes

Its totally wrong to get less out of rerolled loot than the value you put into it.

PaffWasTaken12/27/2017, 3:07:46 AM10 votes

Riot will probably never give any compensation whatsoever, and I hope they'll feel bad because of it for the rest of their lives. Can't lose that precious money of yours can't you Rito?

Banana 18 Bro12/27/2017, 12:19:58 PM9 votes

I am very thankful to the person posting about this, with statistics of the 0% chances how you never get the 1350 skins from rerolls.

It was a completely shove into Riot's eyes and they immediately made a public post so it doesn't appear as obvious that they've been hiding that data from us, but rather that someone from the community found it out for them. Well, sad but we weren't born yesterday.

Compensation should be 3 free Hextech keys and chests.

Dorans Pants12/27/2017, 3:19:41 PM8 votes

right there, next to the fucks riot used to give. I love how openly they admitted how the rerolls have always been weighted like it´s the most normal thing in the world. [because that´s not fucked up at all]

but hey some people will defend anything nowadays.

TheProfezzor12/27/2017, 1:35:47 AM7 votes

I have never rerolled shards b/c I DE them for OE to make others PERM. That being said, I was disappointed with how Riot handled the OE DE value nerf NOW for skin shard drop buff LATER and failed to really notify people. Now I am disgusted with how they knowingly scammed people (not me) out of reroll skin shards. It's like they are trying to compete with EA in being a garbage gaming company.

PapaGreg2112/27/2017, 4:08:36 PM6 votes

We should all get another Master Yi shard!

Who is Taliyah12/27/2017, 2:31:00 PM5 votes

As someone who has spent at least 50€ on loot myself and rerolled almost every skin shard I got, I am really disappointed.

I appreciate the person that told us about it.

Altiverse12/27/2017, 11:13:52 AM5 votes

I'm going to quote the Rioter from the other discussion, since I can only conclude from some comments here that they don't know about it.

FWIW, the current weighting system made more sense back in the old system (when people only ever rerolled low-value skins) but we’re realizing now we should’ve just updated it to be unweighted when we made all the other loot changes. So, it’s our bad. Will fix ASAP and update once it’s done.

If they publicly admitted that rerolls were weighted and it's their bad for not updating it along with the loot changes, while a lot of people (including myself) have bought lots of hextech content (Snowdown Capsules...) and were basically scammed when rerolling shards, I do definitely think it's reasonable to compensate for it.

Friendly Ram12/27/2017, 5:34:00 AM4 votes

Same place as the old player compensation. Bumfuck nowhere.

Emelie Cauchemar12/28/2017, 12:26:20 AM3 votes

Tryndamere hates when you call them greedy.

PearPearadox12/27/2017, 1:41:52 AM3 votes

You're totally right. Who would've known possibly at all in the whole world that riot would give us a very low chance at getting a free $10[1350 RP]? (Sarcasm) Also, who else would've known that rerolling shards/gambling was a bad idea since they definitely did not know that they would have lower chances? Who could've possibly known? That's probably 95% of people, you are in that 5% bud.

Papa Andrei12/27/2017, 5:06:55 AM3 votes

Hey theres this thing, its called gambling. Look it up, you risk what you got for more, and 99% of the time, the odds are weighted so you get less. Its how gambling works.

SeaChange12/27/2017, 6:50:04 AM3 votes

Yeah... this whole thing was REALLY painful, cus I had just rerolled some shards into some stupid sion skin. HOURS later, I see that rioters are working to improve odds... My luck. RITO, blease! Ur ruffling my bird leaves.

SpecterVonBaren12/27/2017, 4:37:27 AM2 votes

Where did you learn this? First I've heard of it.

Skins Project12/27/2017, 3:42:25 AM2 votes

Bruh that was on PBE....

While I'm not saying it's not accurate we can't be sure it is either.

PBE is weird, alot of things r different when it comes 2 hextech.