He's currently the most banned top laner and has maintained top 2 most banned toplaners for a long while.
This champ is already S tier, buffing him will only increase his ban rate, and most people don't wanna deal with his bullshit. Clearly Riot is favoring the pro scene instead of looking at the state of soloque for most players.
Slim Gragas19 votesDarius is too good right now, it's laughable when people try to point out his only weakness being his mobility/being kited. That's become such a small problem for champions nowadays with all the items and runes that make this burden almost non-existent. Because of this, he can literally run down teams in teamfights and when he gets 5 stacks of bleed on one person, the whole team is dead unless you can kill his tanky ass in time while ALSO dealing with the rest of the enemy team.
Moody P18 votesHe's not S tier. A or B+ at the highest.
It's probably not a big buff.
Noor Sakata10 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f9EvYom0,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-09-18T16:24:36.849+0000)
He's not S tier. A or B+ at the highest.
It's probably not a big buff.
S tier because he insta wins the lane most of times , his winrate is barely 50% but he is good to one trick if you win your lane most of times and make it a 4v5 match , but his ban rate is too high for that I guess , the isn't that broken , but he is way too much of a lane bully He is from the highest tier in Top lane in Korea " Tier 1 according to OP.GG " not the highest tier in the game but the highest tier in top lane
Moody P14 votesHe doesn't insta-win lane. Almost entirely his advantageous matchups are tanks or champions with terrible early games like Nasus, and everyone else is either a skill matchup or beats him.
Hibeki9 votesReally though, even sometimes tanks can just beat him anyway. Picks like Maokai still beat him top and unless he takes ghost hes laughably easy to kite.
CaptnPigmericaV21 votespffff what? Almost everyone gets stomped by him, hes one of those few champs that can literally build straight tank and still do pretty much the most damage in the game. With flash, you're done. It doesn't help that his supposed "counters", long range champions, are countered by him since his pull is right at their attack range so he can easily just pull u in, full combo, dead. Assassins can't kill him because he can literally just do the same thing bc of how squish they are, and how hes a tank that does just as much dmg for no reason.
Alzon17 votesWhat is the Darius buff, anyway?
Slim Gragas12 votesJust dodge his E LOOOOL 4Head
Lil Homie busta12 votesYou actually can dodge his E by side stepping but I get you, its hard.
ExpStealer3 votesVayne you can Condemn him every time. As Ashe and Caitlyn you can kite him to death and he can do nothing about it unless he has Flash.
Woooooooot3 votes
yea ur gonna die still
ExpStealer2 votesFaster than my arrow? I think not.
On a serious note - I've never ever seen a Darius build that, but then again I'm Silver (if you know what I mean).
TheCodeisCupCake2 votesYe me neither. Doesn't give enough tank stats unlike 
. Also Righteous glory has a 90 sec cd. If you fail an engage you can't engage for another 90 sec. Your team has no engage for 90 sec if your the only front liner. Imagine if the enemy team has a good poke comp and your just there waiting 90 seconds.
Vlada Cut11 votesObnoxious duelist...
HentaiSimulator11 votesDarius is dookey af right now hes a worse version of garen for the time being
Child of the Pit10 votesHow about some context maybe.
First of all, what is the buff, it may be something like, + 5 damage on Q on all levels, and thats about it.
Second of all, show some pictures of statistics saying he is the most banned champion from Diamond 5 onward, because honestly, the only elo that tends to ban Darius alot is low elo because they cannot comprehend how to fight against him.
Third of all, Darius is one of the least flashy, fun to watch champions, if he gets buffs it will be for anything BUT pro play.
Ceazaru9 votesS tier? OMEGALUL. He's being sitting under a 50% win rate for multiple patches.
MrFawknSunshine3 votesS tier? OMEGALUL. He's being sitting under a 50% win rate for multiple patches.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Darius/ 50.85% win rate 9.98% pick rate 43.19% ban rate. in plat elo and higher across all servers. so he is picked or banned in 53% of games and maintains a 50.85% win rate.
so where are you seeing him below 50% win rate for multiple patches?
Ceazaru1 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Darius/ 50.85% win rate 9.98% pick rate 43.19% ban rate. in plat elo and higher across all servers. so he is picked or banned in 53% of games and maintains a 50.85% win rate.
so where are you seeing him below 50% win rate for multiple patches?
Well that’s my mistake for referring to OP.GG. I’ve been trying to get into the habit of using a different and more reliable source. I would say Darius is average and the only reason people ban him is because they can’t capitalize on his weaknesses and his weaknesses are the same as every other juggernaut. Big slow and weak to kiting and CC.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesWell that’s my mistake for referring to OP.GG. I’ve been trying to get into the habit of using a different and more reliable source. I would say Darius is average and the only reason people ban him is because they can’t capitalize on his weaknesses and his weaknesses are the same as every other juggernaut. Big slow and weak to kiting and CC.
darius is above average. is he broken ? no. strong yea. but if he still has a +51% win rate in diamond elo then its not just a matter of not knowing how to play around his kit. the meta favors fighters/bruiser/juggernauts who have strong early games and can take use of ignite in a nerfed tp meta and conqueror. oh in there is buffs on pbe for darius for next patch.
i wasnt trying to put you down and point out being wrong. this is a discussion where having proper information makes it better. as far as referencing sites for data the two best i have found is www.leagueofgraphs.com and http://lolalytics.com/ if you want to look at pro stats leagueofgraphs has it and so does http://www.gamesoflegends.com/home. op.gg uses data from korean server and im not sure where or how champion.gg gets theirs. so keep this in mind if you are curious about data regarding game/champs/items/runes.
2DunksFromHell8 votesWhere the fuck you see that Darius is buffed?
Kadexe8 votesYou're not entirely wrong. He's being buffed because he's possibly close to being competitively viable, and played at worlds. There's zero risk that he'll become pick-or-ban with the slightest buff, unlike Zoe or Azir. And I guess Riot is hoping soloqueue will still be able to handle Darius.
AirKingNeo8 votesHe's currently the most banned top laner and has maintained top 2 most banned toplaners for a long while.
Nope https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/top/platinum/by-banrate
This champ is already S tier, buffing him will only increase his ban rate, and most people don't wanna deal with his bullshit.
S tier with 0 competitive presence? https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/top/lcs
Clearly Riot is favoring the pro scene instead of looking at the state of soloque for most players.
How? Corrupting Potion + Timewarp Tonic isn't being changed, so Darius will still be outclassed.
ankoanko193 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champions/ 4th place, close enough.
Lil Homie busta6 votesI just don't think a champion should be able to poke and heal every 6~4 seconds while having one of the best all-ins in the game.
Alzon4 votes
Anidan3 votesI doubt they have as much problem with Rakan. Rakan isn't going to solo kill you whereas Darius will.
SociaI Justice12 votesits funny cause rakan actually has enough damage to solo kill the adc at level 6, if he solo laned and actually built damage he would very much be a threat.
Fízz v26 votesIm fine with that tbh, the only thing I dont like is how a juggernaut has that much cc, including a hook that roots you at the end. Which pretty much makes his Q blade impossible to dodge after getting Ed.
OneBarrel6 votesDarius is not "S" tier. The only reason that people ban him so often is that he's a lane bully that people don't know how to play against. It isn't that hard to walk into him during his Q so he doesn't get a stack/heal or to basically not fight extended trades so he stacks his passive (gives AD and massive bleed). I guarantee most of the players here complaining try to fight extended trades into him or are the greediest players in terms of creep score while they're being zoned for already making mistakes. Here are some tips against Darius: Short trades and disengage, don't fight until after he burns Q or W on minions, don't trade UNTIL he reaches 5 stacks , walk into him so he doesn't get healing or stack (this is why jax and irelia are easy picks into this champ).
Verxint5 votesWhat Darius buff are you talking about?
Shablagoo5 votesBecause ban rate isnt the only factor in determining a op pick. The fact that darius has a higher banrate then graves shows what wrong, people literally ban people more because they just don't like dealing with them. Has nothing to do with the pick being strong or not. Zed was one of the most banned pick even in the ardent meta, pretty much showed where the priorities lay.
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesYes, because a champion having a high banrate means they should stay weak, no matter what.
At this point I don't even care why. You're citing only his banrate like it's the only thing that matters. That's not how balance works. Yasuo still had one of the highest banrates while he was at a 42% winrate.
Cite banrate and playrate if you want, sure, but you can't just not cite winrate like it doesn't matter at all. Banrate and pickrate without looking at winrate only tells you how annoying and popular someone is, not how actually strong they are.
lil koda3 votescomplain hes only talking about banrate, then you talk about yasuo's winrate without talking about his playrate, higher playrate will always = lower winrate, yasuo is unfun, and ass to play against, while also being really strong in the hands of someone with a brain.
Dark Royalty2 votesExactly bro, why should a champ get nerfed for being annoying, if this was true teemo would be gutted malzahar would be gutted tahm kench would be gutted. Your not gona get a champ nerfed cuz u hate them more than the other 100+ champs.
TheDogeAvenger5 votesI don't know because of his 49% win rate in higher elo the fact that he is easy to punish and basically any ranged top laner beats him. Your bitching over Darius getting a buff when he is in a pretty bad spot in higher elo. Also no wonder why you are complaining you're in silver 3 and you play champs that get beat by Darius. If you're bitching ban him then.
MrFawknSunshine4 votesI don't know because of his 49% win rate in higher elo the fact that he is easy to punish and basically any ranged top laner beats him. Your bitching over Darius getting a buff when he is in a pretty bad spot in higher elo. Also no wonder why you are complaining you're in silver 3 and you play champs that get beat by Darius. If you're bitching ban him then.
50.85% win rate in plat + with a 9.98% pick rate and a 43.19% ban rate so where is this high elo he is below 50%? if you go to diamond+ to take plat out 51.18% win rate 8.79% pick rate 31.25% ban rate
so in "high" elo he is over 51% win rate and still has a 40% pick/ban rate
Tough Guy4 votesDarius has such easy counter play. Most of all range champs can easily poke him and other champs can out sustain him. He is easily suspect able to junglers and can be kited by range. Players mostly just ban him because they don't know how to deal with him, are not confident in their team to shut him down, or are legitimately uninterested in fighting him in the top lane.
OLLARE OLLARE4 votesLow elo.. low elo plebs everywhere. Darius is in a such a bad spot tbh, is so easy to counterplay and play around his weakness. He’s not even an A tier, having less than 48% of wr. He can literally get outscaled by any bruiser running conqueror. This will be like an early-mid game buff like idk a max health or maybe an e armor pen buff, noting too brutal. So calm your titties lads.
Keitron2 votesJust because your bad doesn't mean others are.
Acrilyk34 votes[{quoted}](name=Not A Darius OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f9EvYom0,comment-id=0026,timestamp=2018-09-19T07:43:24.758+0000)
Low elo.. low elo plebs everywhere. Darius is in a such a bad spot tbh, is so easy to counterplay and play around his weakness. He’s not even an A tier, having less than 48% of wr. He can literally get outscaled by any bruiser running conqueror. This will be like an early-mid game buff like idk a max health or maybe an e armor pen buff, noting too brutal. So calm your titties lads.
Definitely not a biased Darius main protecting his "melee has no chance" pick
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SociaI Justice2 votesbuilding a qss to counter darius is about as sensible as building a frozen heart to counter azir.
wolvius3 votesIf you look on the latest post on surrender at twenty there is a comment with a screenshot of planned buffs for 8.19.
Luigi Tortellini3 votesI don't think he needs a buff at all, but I actually enjoy both playing and fighting Darius. Nothing more satisfying in the game than getting back to back dunks. When playing against him if you're playing a good duelist (ya know, most top laners), if you hug him when he Q's you can absolutely poop on him as he spends a full second charging up an attack that does minimal damage.
Ranged matchups are also interesting. Ranged characters can bully the ever loving hell out of him, but if he runs flash + ghost and gets a single hook on you... oh baby you better start panicking.
That said you don't see him too much because he's always banned, and for good reason. He hard counters a lot of top laners and playing safe in League of 20 minutes doesn't accomplish anything except making games 4v5.
FabWarlock3 votesThey want the Darius dunks at Worlds. He makes manly sounds when he dunks. I can't think of other reasons.
Full Brain3 votesBans are heavily waited towards personal hatred of a characters mechanics. It is why Yasuo, Zed, and Darius tend to have high ban rates no matter what state they are in. No one wants to deal with windwall eating their attacks while Yasuo is surfing a minion wave, no one wants to have a character become untargetable and reappear and oneshot you, and no one wants to have some ridiculously tanky bruiser flash onto them cc chain them and instantly kill them with a refreshable true damage attack.
SHANK LUX MAINS2 votesWorks for me until Garen (sitting at a 52% winrate as the most brainless champ toplane) gets nerfed. At least itll go back to a stomp matchup
