Champs that might use new abyssal?

T RexHasTinyArms··1 votes·382 views

Off the top of my head I could see this being really good on Amumu DrMundo Gragas Nautilus Sion Zac and maybe Evelynn for jungles that could use it (synergy w/ cinder hulk from the new HP, gives MR option for jungle tanks, and adds damage and shred.

Only champs I can see it being good on for lane are Galio w/ his ult and shred, Gragas tank bruiser top lane, Maokai HP and MR are good, now his ult does resist for team and shred from abyssal, Mordekaiser w/ a spell pen tanky option instead of burst since they nerfed his burst, and Nautilus support maybe since supports don't want to push, and the shred is good help for your mid if they are AP.

I think really the only strong lane options are probably Maokai and Mordekaiser, and the only big thing this will do is give ap bruiser tanks even more synergy w/ cinder hulk, and may make Mordekaiser actually shift over to the tanky bruiser that Rito seems to want him to be. I don't see it really being useful much in lane anymore though for most champs. Any thing I'm missing here? (Other than maybe being off about some jungles that could benefit? I figure Zac Amumu and Gragas are the only ones for sure since they bring lock down enough to guarantee two procs of the passive for shred which will be huge for utility to bring to your AP carry.)

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Danyul Targaryen1 votes

Maybe an offtanky lissandra

GroundRuleDouble1 votes

Sejuani is a big one, too.

sp4411 votes
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Hard4Hamsters1 votes

I don't see Gragas building it honestly. He doesn't really have room for it as an MR option if he's building tank, and as far as an AP build, he wouldn't be in the fight long enough to use it effectively. He doesn't really benefit as much from sitting in the middle of a fight as much as others. He would rather isolate targets or peel for his carries.

Champions I like the new item on: Amumu Rammus Sejuani Swain Mordekaiser(tankier dot build) Galio(just in terms of cost efficiency) I could maybe see it on Sion Nautilus as they don't benefit that heavily from Spirit Visage passive (they like the stats on SV more though). Maybe a laning Leona could use it as well, but... that's not very common.

Champions like DrMundo Gragas Maokai Zac just benefit too much from Spirit Visage over the new Abyssal to the point that I don't see them building it as a main MR item. It might have it's place to help against tanks stacking MR in the later parts of the game but I think this item only benefits DOT tanky champions.

Evelynn.... maybe... no.. just no.

One thing to note is that this will hurt Elise even more now. She could get by with a full flat pen build to take out squishies while she built tank items, but she doesn't like to stay in a fight long enough to benefit from the passive. item 3709 item 3136 item 3001 item 3020 allowed her to do true damage to squishier targets, but she can't do this with Abyssal changes. She was also a champion who built Juggernaut enchant and benefited from that more than Cinderhulk, now she isn't even going to get any benefits from the damage from Cinderhulk because that got nerfed. Elise is in a really bad spot right now, and these changes hurt her even more.

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