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How players counter THEMSELVES against stealth.

Arthimetes·7/18/2016, 5:58:53 PM·7 votes·842 views

First off, head over to champion.gg and take a look at the winrates of anyone that relies heavily on stealth.

You'll notice something, they all have a huge spike around the 30-40 minute timer (except , no clue whats up with his winrate) and you'll think "Yeah, they got full build so they hit their max powerspike." WRONG!

Here's why: NO PINKS

As soon as players hit full build they can no longer purchase pink wards so they can place them for that Rengar ult, or to scout for Teemo shrooms, or to finally see that incoming Eve gank.

PLAYERS EFFECTIVELY COUNTER THEMSELVES AGAINST THESE CHAMPIONS JUST BY GETTING TO FULL BUILD

Yeah getting is all well and good for traps, but you usually only have one, MAYBE 2 people with that item on your team and it's still crap against stealthed enemies. Sure it outlines them, but they're still untargetable so they're still gonna walk up and delete someone before you can react, plus it only lasts a short time and has a relatively long cooldown.

Pinks are the go-to against stealth champions, and everyone used to get the pink trinket upgrade late game so they could spot these champions but it got deleted because ???

Riot, we seriously need a pink ward slot or bring back the pink trinket upgrade.

19 Comments

Extrasolar7/18/2016, 7:32:44 PM4 votes

The reason why stealth champions have a higher winrate the later the game goes on is pretty evident: Because making a single mistake lategame will cost you the game. Your ADC/mid gets caught out of position and assassinated by the enemy Shaco/Rengar/Eve/Khazix etc? Force a fight, the team without their carries is probably going to lose it. Push Nexus and win. So I think it's more positioning mistakes/people getting caught then anything.

ChaddyFantome7/18/2016, 6:42:50 PM4 votes

Riot did this on purpose because it prevented them from properly balancing stealth. The way they changed the trinket is genius in my opinion as it gives you the location without outright revealing them, which means skillshot champs can still do their thing.

Pink wards being removed from trinkets late game means Stealth champs aren't fucked over by late game, the point where they should actually be strongest if they play well since map space is more open.

Before, these things made it to where being successful as a stealth champ was more dependent on the competence of the enemy than the skill of the stealth user, as it came down to, "did they or didn't they even bother trying to use the plethora of free resources given to you to effectively make stealth pointless" yes or no."

If they were incompetent, the answer was yes. if not, our stealth was basically pointless.

UsiTsukino7/18/2016, 6:20:16 PM3 votes

As a Support: PINK SLOT !!!! item 2043 Thresh

Slamurai Jack7/18/2016, 7:54:32 PM2 votes

Their winrates late game would go down an awful lot if adcs stopped being morons and farming alone in side lanes past 30+ minutes. I'm diamond and I still see that retarded shit. No shit Rengars winrate is really higher after 40 minutes; It's really hard to win teamfights late game without your adc because he just had to go get that juicy wave all by himself while Baron is up.

DeathBurst7/19/2016, 7:12:43 PM1 votes

Your title is misleading. Almost looks like you're suggesting people to stay on 5 items. That's not the case, but one needs to read your post until the very last line to realize it...

DænariusKhølerin7/18/2016, 7:28:05 PM1 votes

Yes. Makes 0 sense how you can't buy a 6th item just because there is a Pink Ward you haven't placed in one slot. I buy one every time I go back and have that extra gold as any role I play if I don't already have one in a bush. However, playing a role like ADC, it's way too easy to fill 6 slots. For example on Caitlyn say you have: item 1055 + item 1083 + item 1042 + + item 1038 + item 2043 . That's already 6 items after about 2 backs.

AcidTheWarlock7/18/2016, 10:41:34 PM1 votes

Have a consumable slot like Smite does (the game, that is)

BAM

DONE

Ralanr7/18/2016, 6:14:23 PM1 votes

Or rework how stealth works.