Veigar and Leblanc Bottom lane is Back to bring you more Pain than Ever

taleofsonata·Oct 14, 2015·3 votes·800 views

Has anyone tried this meta again? The Bursty monster bottom with Leblanc Support and Veigar AP Carry. Try it, its the only way to shutdown Vayne the most obnoxious ADC. X =

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PoskeOct 14, 20151 votes

That idea is actually really bad. Le bl is item/snowball reliant and she ll never be good enough support. The lane also offers only magic dmg which ll be countered unless you play against sheeps

The fact that you said that that Le bl + veigar bottom lane is back is even more shocking since THAT WAS NEVER AN ACTUALLY DECENT THING..

You arent breaking the meta with this suggestion you are just using the shallow logic . 2 assassins can easly kill 1 ADC... there are way more variables for that to be a viable lane

For example Mid veigar ll stack more because the lane is shorter and because some ll take teleport. Lets not forget in midlane you actually play against mages which is useful since ehm?

It might work vs Thresh + Morde (Once he gets nerfed) because thresh has no Mr per level and because Morde is to reliant on getting his cores rather then mr + he wouldnt be able to reach them. But even then Le bl + veigar would be somewhat effective just in this matchup

Yesterday I played AD Le bl getting a S+ with 26/5/5 kda yet you dont see me making pointless threads about ADC LE BL NEW META JUMP ON THE SHEEP BANDWAGON

http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1260066537/33450135?tab=overview Ashe went ap last 5 minutes cuz of tilt

taleofsonataOct 14, 20151 votes

Do you know how strong Veigar is right now or can't you see those QQ threads about him. Leblanc Veigar duo will bring soo much CC during teamfight aswell as being able to completely delete not one but 2 or maybe more enemies in teamfight.

With this Juggernaut Meta I can see darius inside Veigar cage wreaking Havoc.

Being able to completely shutdown bottom bring alot. Ganking Leblanc and Veigar would be a huge risk because of their sheer power.

Lee Sin Gank? Leblanc E,Q,W followed by a Veigar W,Q and if bottom lane is trying to follow up disengage with E.

This isn`t a pointless threads it actually work.

Its like when morde was 1st rework everyone though of playing him mid and top yet calling trolls when he was picked as ADC.

Don`t worry Leblanc Veigar bottom will becomes a thing because Veigar gains AP per Assist too. Even though he will farm slower his Q, Leblanc can help him snowball and itemize ultra fast with her scary early game.

Leblanc Has a double snare + a double slow + an escape, very good at peeling the Veigar.

I wanna see an ADC survive a 0 item Veigar QWR, and 0 leblanc QRWE combo.

If you need a ranged mid to siege tower thats pretty simple.

Varus Ezreal Corki ADC can go mid too.

Here are some team composition that work around LB and veigar bottom.

JarvanIV Varus Veigar Leblanc Malphite

PoskeOct 14, 20151 votes

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Do you know how strong Veigar is right now or can't you see those QQ threads about him. Leblanc Veigar duo will bring soo much CC during teamfight aswell as being able to completely delete not one but 2 or maybe more enemies in teamfight.

With this Juggernaut Meta I can see darius inside Veigar cage wreaking Havoc.

Being able to completely shutdown bottom bring alot. Ganking Leblanc and Veigar would be a huge risk because of their sheer power.

Lee Sin Gank? E,Q,W followed by a W,Q and if bottom lane is trying to follow up disengage with E.

This isn`t a pointless threads it actually work.

Its like when morde was 1st rework everyone though of playing him mid and top yet calling trolls when he was picked as ADC.

Don`t worry Leblanc Veigar bottom will becomes a thing, Veigar gains AP per Assist too. Even though he will farm slower his Q, Leblanc can help him snowball and itemize ultra fast by her scary early game.

Leblanc Has a double snare + a double slow + an escape, very good at peeling the Veigar.

I wanna see an ADC survive a 0 item Veigar QWR, and 0 leblanc QRWE combo.

If you need a ranged mid to siege tower thats pretty simple.

ADC can go mid too.

Here are some team composition that work around LB and veigar bottom.

Are you serious?

IF THIS works then I just proved THAT AD LE BL IS 12313131X TIMES STRONGER THEN YOUR SUGGESTION

How old are you=? I am sure only Sub 18 would post something like this

Cant you see it lacks logic

Unless you can do it Suscesfull on the ranked multiple time its Bad

I ll be simple this are the reasons

-Only magic dmg (Hexdrinker early on ADC have fun) -Veigar gains less exp > he uses q less often > less ap -Le bl needs items and she is snowball reliant roaming champion you cant roam to toplane for example -Le bl needs gold spellthief is meh for her ..(And thats coming from le bl main) -WHAT MAKES YOU THINK DOUBLE BURST IS GOOD TO BEGIN WITH? Its like saying double RESET Champs are good.. no you never want to have khazix and katarina in the same team for example (It doesnt sound bad on paper though but in reallity you get mad on kha for fucking up everything and he gets mad at you) -Veigar scales of enemy ap. GJ YOU ARE PLAYING AGAINST AN AD CARRY.. -Bottom lane is reliant on sustained damage -If any pro team ever uses this I ll gift you a skin

taleofsonataOct 14, 20151 votes

You didn`t invent AD leblanc, it was already a thing before. http://www.nerfplz.com/2014/12/fotm-report-ad-leblanc-hype.html She can be used as an extremely safe splitpusher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0BF0iflUaUU Even pro player tried AD leblanc such as piglet yet do very good with her.

PoskeOct 14, 20151 votes

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You didn`t invent AD leblanc, it was already a thing before. http://www.nerfplz.com/2014/12/fotm-report-ad-leblanc-hype.html She can be used as an extremely safe splitpusher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0BF0iflUaUU Even pro player tried AD leblanc such as piglet yet do very good with her.

And when did I imply that I invented it ? I just said that I had insane performance with it and yet I am aware that its not meta besides I went bottom with le bl..

Unlike your suggestion AD le bl is common sense

She is mobile She can chase She can kite She does have steroids actually clone applies botrk and can do damage with auto if it dies as the autoatack is flying If she had 550 range we might see her more often

I cant even list pros of your suggestion ...

Mafia LeBlancOct 14, 20151 votes

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Are you serious?

IF THIS works then I just proved THAT AD LE BL IS 12313131X TIMES STRONGER THEN YOUR SUGGESTION

How old are you=? I am sure only Sub 18 would post something like this

Cant you see it lacks logic

Unless you can do it Suscesfull on the ranked multiple time its Bad

I ll be simple this are the reasons

-Only magic dmg (Hexdrinker early on ADC have fun) -Veigar gains less exp > he uses q less often > less ap -Le bl needs items and she is snowball reliant roaming champion you cant roam to toplane for example -Le bl needs gold spellthief is meh for her ..(And thats coming from le bl main) -WHAT MAKES YOU THINK DOUBLE BURST IS GOOD TO BEGIN WITH? Its like saying double RESET Champs are good.. no you never want to have khazix and katarina in the same team for example (It doesnt sound bad on paper though but in reallity you get mad on kha for fucking up everything and he gets mad at you) -Veigar scales of enemy ap. GJ YOU ARE PLAYING AGAINST AN AD CARRY.. -Bottom lane is reliant on sustained damage -If any pro team ever uses this I ll gift you a skin

I do this a lot where I pick LB instead of an ADC, but I build AP. I don't see why it can't work as long as you have some AD on your team. If the enemy ADC/Supp have to screw up their build and buy a bunch of MR instead of straight damage, congratuations, you've completed your job, and the enemy is afraid of you. You've made the enemy AD far weaker in teamfights and pushing just to counter 2 members of your team. If the rest of your team is all AD, then that vayne is at a huge disadvantage for the rest of the game. And even in your own lane, all you need now is a void staff as your second big item and you're good. You really think a simple hexdrinker is going to stop a vayne from getting deleted instantly by a Veig/LB combo? You seem to think champs are only played in one particular way (unless you're messing around in one game then it's ok).

The biggest problem with this game is people think that because something is out of meta, it's inherently worse than every other option. People's argument is "lawl if it were better to do it that way, the pros would have done it lawlalwalwl".. No. If it works for YOU in YOUR elo and situation, it is a valid choice. Use your own brain and do something before somene else tells you it's ok. At one point Morgana and Annie support were considered troll, and people were reported and blamed for everything that went wrong in the first few games until it caught on.

Do I personally think Veig/LB is the best choice? No, but it is certainly a valid choice, and shouldn't be immediately discounted as troll because you theorize it can't work. I can name a bunch of reasons why it's not the best, but player skill compensates for a lot of so-called innate advantages or disadvantages of champions. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of different ways to mix and match a team with all the champs and roles we have to pick from, and the playerbase utilizes less than 1% of every possible option in what we call 'meta'. In theory, there are thousands of other ways we could be playing the game, but most people ignore all other ways and are afraid to try anything else because of people like you flaming them before the game even starts.

The most irritating thing that I see people do on this forum is when someone doesn't like/is calling a champion OP, they simply list what the character does while ignoring 100% of the weaknesses, or vice-versa, where people think a champion/combination is weak, they simply list all of the weaknesses, and completely ignore all of the strengths.

PoskeOct 15, 20151 votes

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I do this a lot where I pick LB instead of an ADC, but I build AP. I don't see why it can't work as long as you have some AD on your team. If the enemy ADC/Supp have to screw up their build and buy a bunch of MR instead of straight damage, congratuations, you've completed your job, and the enemy is afraid of you. You've made the enemy AD far weaker in teamfights and pushing just to counter 2 members of your team. If the rest of your team is all AD, then that vayne is at a huge disadvantage for the rest of the game. And even in your own lane, all you need now is a void staff as your second big item and you're good. You really think a simple hexdrinker is going to stop a vayne from getting deleted instantly by a Veig/LB combo? You seem to think champs are only played in one particular way (unless you're messing around in one game then it's ok).

The biggest problem with this game is people think that because something is out of meta, it's inherently worse than every other option. People's argument is "lawl if it were better to do it that way, the pros would have done it lawlalwalwl".. No. If it works for YOU in YOUR elo and situation, it is a valid choice. Use your own brain and do something before somene else tells you it's ok. At one point Morgana and Annie support were considered troll, and people were reported and blamed for everything that went wrong in the first few games until it caught on.

Do I personally think Veig/LB is the best choice? No, but it is certainly a valid choice, and shouldn't be immediately discounted as troll because you theorize it can't work. I can name a bunch of reasons why it's not the best, but player skill compensates for a lot of so-called innate advantages or disadvantages of champions. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of different ways to mix and match a team with all the champs and roles we have to pick from, and the playerbase utilizes less than 1% of every possible option in what we call 'meta'. In theory, there are thousands of other ways we could be playing the game, but most people ignore all other ways and are afraid to try anything else because of people like you flaming them before the game even starts.

The most irritating thing that I see people do on this forum is when someone doesn't like/is calling a champion OP, they simply list what the character does while ignoring 100% of the weaknesses, or vice-versa, where people think a champion/combination is weak, they simply list all of the weaknesses, and completely ignore all of the strengths.

There is just two problems with the OP-s po -He acts like Veigar + Le bl combo is new -He thinks it used to be viable (And when I say viable.. I mean viable not tier12313) since he said its back

Veigar+le bl combo is really really bad.

I am all up for innovating. But in order to do that you need logic. I innovate all the time I often tell my team to swap lanes while giving them few good reasons why it is good for the current game (They ussualy dont swap because they are afraid of unkown)

There are tons of issues with the current meta.

**Every game there is ADC **( except in morde games but thats to recent .. and he ll mostlikely get gutted) Why havent we ever seen mage + support combination? (Its mainly because all supports do primarly magic dmg except maybe blitz to an extent and that alone makes any AP + support lane not viable)

Supports are only supporting Marksmans through an early game Why havent we ever seen a double mid. Its the middle of map .. it would be great for roaming supports such as bard + while ADC would farm mid. Mage could handle bottom lane alone with his aoe damage

That all works honestly Until you reach High diamond elo. Because up until then you ll just confuse the fuck out of everyone with swaping lanes and then they ll do pointless swap to adapt which ll result in them losing tempo