Everyone will play assassins. They are broken beyond repair because of their stupid oneshot-burst that has no counter.
Getting sick of being oneshoted all the fucking time in every fucking game I play.
Beatrice falls10 votesEveryone will become assassins lol
TrikzterzArma3 votes[{quoted}](name=Beatrice falls,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-31T19:07:48.242+0000)
Everyone will become assassins lol
Enemy Jhin just three-shoted our Rammus in a game I just played
Daddy Ants2 votesEnemy Jhin just three-shoted our Rammus in a game I just played
I find that extremely difficult to believe.
I'm interested to see some stats.
1 800 Top Lane5 votesHe's not wrong you know
Pika Fox2 votesNo counter?
Wards. Not running off solo. GA. Stopwatch. Zonyas. Exhaust.
The thigh guy6 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-31T19:11:00.623+0000)
No counter?
Wards. Not running off solo. GA. Stopwatch. Zonyas. Exhaust.
Wards got gutted Being in your team won’t help you against zed or rengar or talon Ga has a 5 minute cooldown. (Assassins have almost none) Stopwatch works once. Maybe Zhonya’s is Gained too late to stop being one hit in the first 3 minutes Exhaust - see ga
Pika Fox3 votesThese are terrible arguments to make. "No counter" lists counters "lol nope cuz i say so".
Wards still give vision of impending ganks and are still one of the most OP things in the game.
Being in your team wont help you? If you all play boosted, sure, but if youre competant that assassin will get CCd or exhausted before dishing out their burst.
You shouldnt need it 15 times. If youre dying 3 times in 5 minutes thats not assassins being busted, thats you. Same for zonyas and stopwatch.
The thigh guy6 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-07-31T19:31:31.235+0000)
These are terrible arguments to make. "No counter" lists counters "lol nope cuz i say so".
Wards still give vision of impending ganks and are still one of the most OP things in the game.
Being in your team wont help you? If you all play boosted, sure, but if youre competant that assassin will get CCd or exhausted before dishing out their burst.
You shouldnt need it 15 times. If youre dying 3 times in 5 minutes thats not assassins being busted, thats you. Same for zonyas and stopwatch.
Lanes are currently decided at level 3. Zed 100-0 you at level 3 with ignite. You run back to lane with your stopwatch. He does it again. Forces your stopwatch. Then he hits 6 while you are level 4 and does it again.
As for wards. You mean those thing that anyone who buys a sweeper or a duskblade just ignores? Maybe if duskblade didn’t flat out make you ignore wards I’d agree with you. But no.
Pika Fox2 votesIf hes constantly all-inning you at level 3, stop running it down mid. Its not like he can W half way across the map.
Duskblade lets you spot and kill pretty much 1 ward. Sweeper also has a CD. You have 2 free wards, support gets 3 more free wards, and you can all buy 1 control ward.
xJLx MCHammer3 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-07-31T19:31:31.235+0000)
These are terrible arguments to make. "No counter" lists counters "lol nope cuz i say so".
Wards still give vision of impending ganks and are still one of the most OP things in the game.
Being in your team wont help you? If you all play boosted, sure, but if youre competant that assassin will get CCd or exhausted before dishing out their burst.
You shouldnt need it 15 times. If youre dying 3 times in 5 minutes thats not assassins being busted, thats you. Same for zonyas and stopwatch.
You didn’t list counters. What you listed is a work around. In gaming terms, some may call it soft counters
Getting ganked a lot? Wards are a counter to it
Telling someone to buy a GA because champion damage is overall too high, is NOT a counter
If your house is flammable material. You don’t tel someone to keep fire extinguishers on hand. You actually have to change the material
The OP is complaining that damage is high. Riot is just adding damage. There are more damage buffs than nerfs
Pika Fox1 votesYes, if the enemy team is roaming aggressively, you need to ward aggressively.
Buying a GA because the enemy divers are hard diving you and your team cant defend you is a counter, and theres 0 evidence that damage is "too high". Its no noticably higher by any metric as stated already by riot, theres more options to put some of your damage into the first few seconds of an engage, but overall damage is relatively the same.
Everyones house is flammable... i hate to break it to you, but you dont live in concrete. Not a good suggestion or statement.
OP is complaining about a thing that doesnt exist and making a terrible argument for it. Refusing to play correctly doesnt mean theres no "counter" or way to adjust your play. Thats just an excuse by someone who lost that doesnt want to get better.
xJLx MCHammer1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-01T00:59:26.964+0000)
Yes, if the enemy team is roaming aggressively, you need to ward aggressively.
Buying a GA because the enemy divers are hard diving you and your team cant defend you is a counter, and theres 0 evidence that damage is "too high". Its no noticably higher by any metric as stated already by riot, theres more options to put some of your damage into the first few seconds of an engage, but overall damage is relatively the same.
Everyones house is flammable... i hate to break it to you, but you dont live in concrete. Not a good suggestion or statement.
OP is complaining about a thing that doesnt exist and making a terrible argument for it. Refusing to play correctly doesnt mean theres no "counter" or way to adjust your play. Thats just an excuse by someone who lost that doesnt want to get better.
Way to miss the point
Pika Fox2 votesOnly point i see is OP was flat out wrong and is making excuses. All these "Damage Creep" sheeple just want to point at something else when the reality is damage simply hasnt increased.
d9u7c1anh1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-01T03:54:42.705+0000)
Only point i see is OP was flat out wrong and is making excuses. All these "Damage Creep" sheeple just want to point at something else when the reality is damage simply hasnt increased.
so they said that after they account for shorter match or it kind of like total damage still the same in shorter (it mean they deal a lot damage in shorter time)
Pika Fox1 votesNo? The statement was damage overall over the course of the same time is roughly the same. The only real difference is you can take some of your damage and put it into the front of your combo at the cost of other stats and later game power.
d9u7c1anh1 votes"The only real difference is you can take some of your damage and put it into the front of your combo at the cost of other stats and later game power" So it mean that people can be burst down faster in the early game but when late game came (which rarely happen right now) the power is weaker right? If that was your point then the "damage is still too high" (i put at that cause when people said that it mean that they get burst down too fast from even a DPS class like ADC) most of the time.
Pika Fox1 votesNo, it means you can take some of your early game damage and add it to the front of your combo (total damage is about the same), at the cost of utility stats and better late game stats/damage.
d9u7c1anh1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-02T13:53:04.919+0000)
No, it means you can take some of your early game damage and add it to the front of your combo (total damage is about the same), at the cost of utility stats and better late game stats/damage.
example? And the post said that. Not to mention that did not really disprove my point cause as i said late game rarely happen in this season and "the damage is too high part" happen because people get burst to fast aka fight end too fast (people complain about that)
Pika Fox1 votesEasiest example is cleaver vs duskblade. Cleaver gives more CDR, HP, and AR shred. Over an entire fight, cleaver will do as much damage for you as duskblade. Duskblades boon is that you get more damage up front, but less damage through the fight.
Later in the game, the utility stats of cleaver far beat out the burst of duskblade, as its damage no longer guarentees kills.
d9u7c1anh1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eivnj9yE,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-02T14:50:18.861+0000)
Easiest example is cleaver vs duskblade. Cleaver gives more CDR, HP, and AR shred. Over an entire fight, cleaver will do as much damage for you as duskblade. Duskblades boon is that you get more damage up front, but less damage through the fight.
Later in the game, the utility stats of cleaver far beat out the burst of duskblade, as its damage no longer guarentees kills.
dude cleaver is a brusier item while duskblade is assassin item and duskbalde have a lot more utility for a assassin (most assassin don't have time to stack cleaver). You should compare Black Cleaver with Trinity Force and Trinity Force still have a lot utility. And again, "damage is too high" mean that people get burst down faster than before not the actual number.
Christopher RPh2 votesYeah it's amazing how a crap player like me can pick up Nocturne and get 20 kills in a game just by pressing R. Then, I try Kindred, and I'm like.... "uhhh where's my damage?"
Yes, I suck at this game.
ISLAMICWARRIOR992 votesWhy would anyone play assasins lmao. Its rapidly approaching if not already at the point where tanks and bruisers are just assasins that cant be 1 shot back.
Edge of Daybreak1 votesEveryone will play assassins except pros. Or the people claiming they are freelo because they can't actually climb with them. Also the one tricks won't swap either. However if we exclude all of that then clearly everyone.
Lost R1 votesYou mean they don't already?
Sirsir1 votesits okay tho they nerfed fiddle poke [sg-miss-fortune]
Who Fed Ru1 votesMore like, why even play Assassins when everything deals just as much damage as them?
HolyJellyMate1 votesPlay tanks then, duh! Oh right..... they're trash. :(