Make Thornmail apply Grievous Wounds.

Emerald Fang··7 votes·1,308 views

You know, to counter the ridiculous lifesteal on champions that this is meant to counter. Thornmail is supposed to counter champs like Tryn, Yi, Xin, etc. Fast-attacking glass cannons. But when their build includes 20-30% lifesteal then it's pointless. This would just be to counter that lifesteal.

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Variks the Loyal1 votes

I'd be down. It's already such a situational item, anyway.

BlueBilberry1 votes

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I'd be down. It's already such a situational item, anyway.

On some of the tanks, it's beyond situational - it's usually standard gear.

wishbone251 votes

thorn nail percentage is low now compared to other damage items armor , it needs a higher buff

Ok sure but why1 votes

That's a bit overpowered, since simply autoing you would make them incapable of surviving against the rest of your team

They should make a new armour item that makes champs heal less off of you

Asayake 5150glow

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That's a bit overpowered, since simply autoing you would make them incapable of surviving against the rest of your team

They should make a new armour item that makes champs heal less off of you

That's why they shouldn't be autoing you :/

Ok sure but why1 votes

But- That would just become an item split-pushers rush along with Guardian Angel

Salron1 votes

AD carries are given the job of autoing the nearest target, and are supposed to deal with tanks

Saying garbage like "they shouldn't be autoing you :////" is asinine because they're the ones who have to kill the tanks typically, they HAVE to auto you.

Now tell me, if they "shouldn't auto you", Who should?

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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AD carries are given the job of autoing the nearest target, and are supposed to deal with tanks

Saying garbage like "they shouldn't be autoing you :////" is asinine because they're the ones who have to kill the tanks typically, they HAVE to auto you.

Now tell me, if they "shouldn't auto you", Who should?

*nearest priority target, actually.

But yeah. Kinda forgot about that.

They shouldn't be healing off autoing you tho, and with BT, that's exactly what they're doing.

Barkingspider731 votes

I imagine nothing will change item-wise for tanks until the mid season tank class update.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

lol are you building other items with armor/hp or damage reduction when you get thornmail or just think thornmail is enough ?

AttackOnTeemos1 votes

The issue is thornmail USE to be able to shutdown people left and right but now life steal literally counters the damage from thornmail. I remember once a time seasons ago I killed a few adcs without doing anything to them because they had no life steal..or it just wasn't that great.

Ohikno1 votes

whoa that's too strong. RIP whoever fights rammus

Zykklon B1 votes

might as well rename it ''Literally Kill Yourself"

k wìx1 votes

That is an awesome idea. If you think its too strong, maybe just.. reduce the healing gained from attacking you by 25-50%.

Shuyin1781 votes

Just having it reduce healing by the attacker at a lower %, that way it doesn't stop them from healing off of other targets.

RexSaur1 votes

LIFESTEAL IS SUPPOSED TO BEAT TANKS.

Is it that hard to understand? If you could counter lifesteal with a single 2k gold item then nobody would play anything but AP champions and tanks.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but im a tank dps and lifesteal shouldnt kill me ... nothing should

HA

Yaśuo Main1 votes

buy executioners calling u damn rammus loving pile of OKAY

NGNL Asian1 votes

Thornmail doesnt need a buff at all

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