The real reason Riot is adding plants to the jungle.

warpenguin555·Oct 13, 2016·159 votes·16,894 views

They ran out of spots to put new jungle camps.

96 Comments

ShadòwOct 13, 2016173 votes

No.

Plants produce oxygen.

They are needed against the huge amount of toxicity that the players produce on the Rift everyday.

THIS is the real reason.

Baal HadedOct 13, 20162 votes

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No.

Plants produce oxygen.

They are needed against the huge amount of toxicity that the players produce on the Rift everyday.

THIS is the real reason.

Some of that oxygen should go to their brain. They've continuously buffed jungle camps because they were too easy but now they're taking away the buffs so now it's even harder. There's no reason to even queue up for jungle anymore

WoonStruckOct 13, 201618 votes

Implying that the jungle is hard to clear for champions that should actually be jungling.

The only champions that will have a significantly harder time clearing are the ones that don't belong there anyway.

resumedOct 13, 201610 votes

Evelynn

WoonStruckOct 14, 20161 votes

Okay, let's be real here. Eve doesn't really belong anywhere. She's still got (the majority of) her kit that they developed with her passive that specifically excluded jungle monsters, meaning she was never intended to be there in the first place.

Any time she can clear the jungle reasonably, she's essentially pick/ban. If she can't, she's borderline troll-pick.

Its a good thing she's getting a VGU somewhat soon. She literally doesn't have an actual purpose outside of 'surprise+hit stuff and hope you're helping enough'.

Anu3isIIOct 14, 20162 votes

What are you talking about? Her passive works best as a jungler because you don't have to constantly CS as the lane Evelynn. I don't know about what passive are you talking about... Her current passive encourages players to ward her jungle so that they have ways to predict her next gank.

And her Q was literally made for Jungle clearing, in lane her opponent can punish her for trying to position all the minions for perfect Q waveclear.

Also she can clear the Jungle much better than you think, her problem is that her current best Jungle Path is predictable, leading to easy counter-jungling/counter-ganks. Any other path leads to a squishy low-health Evelynn, and Pro players used to cover that by rotating the Top to tank for her.

That "Surprise+hit stuff" is what makes her literally be a monster... what leads to snowbally games and easy wins. She is an early game Jungler, whose role is to kill lanes/apply pressure by just existing in the match. Almost everyone fears her stealth, and those who don't are just easy spots to gank.

The best strategy against her is to either play safe in the lanning phase or to constantly have pink wards and protect them almost continuously.That is a big enough purpose that every Stealthy Evelynn player appreciates.

WoonStruckOct 14, 20162 votes

Her old passive reduced minion damage, but not monster damage.

Her Q was not made for jungle clearing. It was changed to help more because she literally couldn't function in lane without being overpowered. It used to deal reduced damage to minions/monsters and had a much higher mana cost.

She doesn't clear the jungle very well. If they wanted her to, she'd have bonus damage to monsters on Q. Yes, she can clear. She doesn't clear it well, though.

She literally offers nothing without her stealth. She was made as a joke dominatrix champ, and they threw a stealth on her to try to make her more interesting outside of her original stun/ult. Yet, the whole dominatrix thing doesn't suit a stealthy gameplay style anyway. They decided the stealth was more important than her theme, and decided to keep it, despite it being the core of 90% of her issues. She can barely do anything if she can't get the drop on you just to provide extra damage that you didn't account for...unless she's over-tuned. Its essentially a feast/famine mechanic. You like it for the same reason people liked rengar's 1-shot combo. You get to bypass an interaction that the enemy was supposed to have. It doesn't make it good for the game.

Eve is a mess from theme to gameplay. She's already slotted for a VGU. I really don't get what you're trying to prove. Everyone knows this. Riot knows this. That's WHY she's on the list for a VGU.

RiotAD YuumiOct 13, 2016151 votes

he's onto us

Malicious MetalOct 13, 201650 votes

So when are we seeing those Maokai Zyra Ivern buffs? They NATURALLY produce oxygen!

GrReaper96Oct 13, 201633 votes

UNIQUE PASSIVE : When alliead champions are near Maokai Zyra Ivern they are no longer able to say toxic statements in their chats and are banned from using champions Vayne Riven Yasuo Ekko

False 001Oct 13, 20169 votes

What's wrong with ekko? I think he is fairly healthy unlike the other cancerous three

ZerenzaOct 13, 20165 votes

Lol i'm wondering the same thing, the other's are know for being toxic but ekko?

Master ArtoriaOct 13, 20169 votes

The other 3 have toxic players, Ekko is just toxic to vs

Ariel the CruelOct 13, 20161 votes

That's a matter of opinion. I consider Nasus , Tryndamere and Singed to be more toxic to VS. The game is a 5v5. Will you stop split-pushing for 5 F'ING SECONDS!

DeathBot666Oct 13, 20163 votes

Wrong.

Urgot Aatrox and Galio mains are the most toxic champions to play against.

You just can't tell because they have 4 between the three of them.

What Is SmiteOct 14, 20163 votes

Correction there is about 20 of us: 4 Aatrox 5 Galio 11 Urgot

woodvsmurphOct 14, 20162 votes

Teemo : hi

l Helios lOct 14, 201619 votes

Ivern already has an anti-toxicity passive. It's his VO. I did terrible on him one game and it was the most fun I've had in a while.

Ariel the CruelOct 14, 201616 votes

When going gets tough; You call Braum !

S H A Y C 0Oct 14, 20166 votes

i watched a streamer play him for the first time and as he strolled to his first jungle camp giggling. Then the pink panther theme song came on the playlist and it was the most epic scene of league of legends 2016!

500+ people laughing their ass off including the streamer. Straight up grown ass men giggling for 32 minutes straight.

If that doesnt SCREAM good champion design, then what is life?

GneissMonthuOct 13, 20162 votes

So your answer to reduce toxicity is to just RNG the game? The only reason there is any toxicity is because my LP is going to drop because of the one person who is feeding, and mean while 2 other teammates have decided to afk because of this.

If you make it possible to be soly responsible for your LP a ton of the toxicity will go away.

DarkRitualOct 14, 20162 votes

Next step on the plan is to make a NEW map, bigger, and with more room for MORE OBJECTIVES. Season 9 introduces Jungle turrets, twelve new Dragons, and Vampire Baron Nashor (Leona's passive deals bonus damage).

Jungle Lux GodOct 13, 201643 votes

Remember, it isn't a preseason unless Riot adds a new jungle camp.

5000000000000000Oct 13, 201625 votes

Season 8: There are two camps in the base where little bits of terrain are. Introducing dummies, which allow you to get an early XP advantage before leaving base.

Jungle Lux GodOct 13, 201614 votes

Season 9: There is a camp inside each fountain that spawns at 30 seconds. Kill it before the fountain laser does.

SancreOct 13, 201625 votes

Season 10: Jungle is 7 times bigger. Going from mid to top can take up to 20 minutes at full speed, Teleport mandatory for junglers now, Teleport can be fused with smite, teleport takes 30 seconds of channeling because its op right now.

Also no new camps added, just old one enlarged, normal monster are now baron sized and baron an dragon are as big as current Summoners Rift, plants are smaller though, finding them by going around the jungle for half the match is considered fun

Baal HadedOct 13, 201618 votes

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Season 10: Jungle is 7 times bigger. Going from mid to top can take up to 20 minutes at full speed, Teleport mandatory for junglers now, Teleport can be fused with smite, teleport takes 30 seconds of channeling because its op right now.

Also no new camps added, just old one enlarged, normal monster are now baron sized and baron an dragon are as big as current Summoners Rift, plants are smaller though, finding them by going around the jungle for half the match is considered fun

Patch 10.8: Jungle minion stats are now proportional to their size, as intended.

5000000000000000Oct 13, 201617 votes

League of Monster Hunters

Meep ManOct 13, 20164 votes

Rengar

RendarkanOct 13, 201619 votes

Season 11: All jungle camps have teamed up, forming an alliance and will now randomly gank a lane if left unchecked. Only a small warning ping will go off. if a champion is executed by a jungle monster during the gank then they become stronger, further putting your jungler behind than he already was. At 20 minutes, if no one has won, Baron Nashor will spawn and rofflestomp both sides. This is when it becomes PvE and Baron Nashor becomes a raid boss with 300k hp. Good luck.

OniSeijiOct 14, 20169 votes

That sounds kinda cool actually.

Hauling AsheOct 14, 20169 votes

You forgot the part where the monsters spam mastery emotes.

LimrickOct 14, 20165 votes

That would be a sick game mode tbh

morris1Oct 14, 20163 votes

Ivern winrate skyrockets.

Hello I am BirdOct 14, 20164 votes

Sounds a bit like Doom Bots

Jeddy017Oct 13, 201634 votes

I thought it was because Zyra, Maokai & Ivern took over Riot HQ & are now pushing a nature agenda all while being led by Captain Planet.

Auz the RipperOct 13, 201614 votes

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Lunar ServantOct 14, 20161 votes

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I thought it was because Zyra, Maokai & Ivern took over Riot HQ & are now pushing a nature agenda all while being led by Captain Planet.

WAIT WHAT

Jeddy017Oct 14, 20162 votes

https://66.media.tumblr.com/b42aed1cff91035ff2a7c14901027257/tumblr_inline_nfz67upBzN1shrb8p.gif

Maximum MordeOct 13, 20168 votes

Lol, I read that as they were adding pants and got excited. Then read it again and got sad. Pls add pants for the jungle Rito. Thorns sucks.

TheFancySkeletonOct 14, 20163 votes

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Lol, I read that as they were adding pants and got excited. Then read it again and got sad. Pls add pants for the jungle Rito. Thorns sucks.

Varus No pants? Perfect.

gottrjrOct 13, 20166 votes

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They ran out of spots to put new jungle camps.

This got me thinking... what about having some roaming jungle creatures free from the retrains of the camps. This would add the controlled randomness Riot is looking for.

Huang ShaotianOct 13, 20169 votes

You mean like scuttle crabs?

Toru ItaiOct 13, 20162 votes

all of the jungle camps roaming around would be thematicly cool. especialy if they auto aggroed anyone they see.

this would also allow them to change the shape of the jungle as much as they want without needing to make spots for jungle camps.

OkamikaziOct 13, 20166 votes

How about Riot puts a camp at the corner of top lane? sure the scenery is nice but it would also be a nice spot to put a camp there and would give more incentive for junglers to gank top lane instead of bot lane all the time.

jama655Oct 14, 20164 votes

These plants are stupid

FakeGravityOct 13, 20162 votes

i was expecting something in the lines of "due junglers killing those pesky hervibores now the plants can grow as intented"

on other note i guess zyra seeds finally took root

Theiki KayleOct 13, 201615 votes

Zyra "Just wait until my seeds take root!"

preseason 7

Zyra "At last, our ascension is at hand!"

GrReaper96Oct 13, 201614 votes

When you wait for your homies to back you up but it takes them 7 years

Ace Access Oct 14, 20162 votes

LEAKED TOP SECRET RIOT GAMES DOCUMENTS: those plants are the creation of Zyra , she has been planning the creation of an army of plants to conquer both Runeterra and Earth, their population has been increasing exponentially and it was necessary to exercise population control.... and what better way to do it than teleporting them into a place where destruction of everything is the norm to whittle down their numbers